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  • MulaKO
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    #41
    Originally posted by Apollo7
    Is he demanding anything or is he giving opportunities? I don't think he's putting a gun to these fighter's heads.
    Only time will tell
    How do you feel if mma guy beats AJ and fights for unified heavyweight title ?
    Not a boxer and a 1-1 record if he wins

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    • Boxing 112
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      #42
      Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
      Turki is clearly a bit backward I think. I don’t think he understands the implications of weight classes. I’m ok with him investing in the sport and allowing an experienced promoter or matchmaker to select the fights like Warren has done for the two previous cards. However, I think it’s a terrible idea to let some mega rich Sheikh with no experience in boxing start putting fights together.
      Backward. Using that word cause of his background you would not use it if it was someone from the US

      The same US where a lot of deluded fans call for Inoue to fight Tank or Bud to fight Canelo. Them 2 are way worse mismatches and jump in weight than Beterbiev fighting Opetaia, which is also a big jump but Beterbiev has fought at heavyweight in amatuers. Bud has never fought above 147, Inoue has never fought above 122 and even that being a new division

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        #43
        Originally posted by MulaKO

        Only time will tell
        How do you feel if mma guy beats AJ and fights for unified heavyweight title ?
        Not a boxer and a 1-1 record if he wins
        If you beat the man then you become the man right? That's how lineal works. If he beats AJ then he deserves to take his spot as challenger for the title. It's not about the numbers. Quality over quantity.

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          #44
          It's a meaningless sideshow in the general scheme of things.

          Fury facing Ngannou was a cross code exhibition fight between a boxer and an MMA guy. A novelty event.It still is even though it's Joshua now.

          I see it as the come down act after the main event; Zhang v Parker for legit contender to the title of best heavyweight boxer in the world.

          Sure AJ can be part of that conversation but he isnt THE conversation and Ngannou isn't even part of the conversation unless he beats Joshua.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Apollo7

            If you beat the man then you become the man right? That's how lineal works. If he beats AJ then he deserves to take his spot as challenger for the title. It's not about the numbers. Quality over quantity.
            Imo , very disrespectful to other boxers who have trained and worked hard to achieve that pinnacle
            This guy gets a pass without fighting anybody cause some rich guy is throwing and flexing his money
            To each their own

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              #46
              Originally posted by Boxing 112

              Backward. Using that word cause of his background you would not use it if it was someone from the US

              The same US where a lot of deluded fans call for Inoue to fight Tank or Bud to fight Canelo. Them 2 are way worse mismatches and jump in weight than Beterbiev fighting Opetaia, which is also a big jump but Beterbiev has fought at heavyweight in amatuers. Bud has never fought above 147, Inoue has never fought above 122 and even that being a new division
              I’m not even from the US.

              Saudi is clearly a backward country. Human rights are on the floor over there.

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                #47
                Originally posted by MulaKO
                So here we go again
                First , he. demands the winner of the unified fight , Fury vs Usyk , to fight the winner. of AJ vs mma guy
                Now , he’s flexing his power and demanding the winner Beterbiev vs Bivol go up and fight Opetaia
                The start of good news or bad news ?
                Ou be te judge
                Bad news. A wealthy camel guy is now driving boxing the way he wants, giving an insane amount of money can make boxers stay and wait for the big cash, which can result in something similar to what we have now. Yes, he sped up the happening of some big fights that were inevitable anyway, making big events, but again - having the sport ruled by the will of one man...

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by MulaKO

                  Imo , very disrespectful to other boxers who have trained and worked hard to achieve that pinnacle
                  This guy gets a pass without fighting anybody cause some rich guy is throwing and flexing his money
                  To each their own
                  Ngannou isn't just some guy who hasn't trained or worked hard though. He's earned it in his own way. Not many people could do what he has done on his journey. Plus that's just how it is in boxing and life in general. It ain't always fair and people don't always get what they deserve so there's nothing new in that sense.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by fifth_root

                    Bad news. A wealthy camel guy is now driving boxing the way he wants, giving an insane amount of money can make boxers stay and wait for the big cash, which can result in something similar to what we have now. Yes, he sped up the happening of some big fights that were inevitable anyway, making big events, but again - having the sport ruled by the will of one man...
                    It’s all peaches and cream now but after

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
                      Turki is clearly a bit backward I think. I don’t think he understands the implications of weight classes. I’m ok with him investing in the sport and allowing an experienced promoter or matchmaker to select the fights like Warren has done for the two previous cards. However, I think it’s a terrible idea to let some mega rich Sheikh with no experience in boxing start putting fights together.
                      Back in the day plenty of smaller fighter's used to fight in much higher weight classes than their natural weight and WIN e.g. Greb, Armstrong, Langford etc. Therefore, asking Bivol/Beterbiev to move up a division really isn't asking much.

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