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  • MulaKO
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    #31
    Originally posted by Eff Pandas

    I'd argue they're making & aiming for more of the fights ppl wanna see than Eddie or Al did in the same amount of time. Usyk vs Fury in Feb. Bivol vs Beterbiev in June. Turki was talking about Tank vs Devin in his last interview I saw the other day.
    I have no problem actually with the fights themselves , yes they are making fights we would never see cause they don’t answer to anyone and they are dropping coin which the promoters don’t have or are not willing to dish out
    Only time will tell where this will lead but I’ll say this if they don’t get some understanding of boxing rankings and weight divisions they will encounter problems in the near future
    Imo , Ngannou should never be fighting , of course if he wins. , for the unified heavyweight championship after having a total of 2 fights
    It’s a slap in the face to all boxers who work so hard to get to that point , meaning mma guy is getting this opportunity based on money not achievement

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    • Eff Pandas
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      #32
      Originally posted by MulaKO
      if they don’t get some understanding of boxing rankings and weight divisions they will encounter problems in the near future
      Outside of the Bivol CW thing idek what the weight division stuff has to do about anything. And it feels like you are making it bigger than it is. If Bivol signed a contract with them I'm sure hes implied if not stated outright he is or isn't interested in moving to 200 after Beterbiev. If he is or isn't thats his own choice to make. He won't be forced to fight Jai anymore than hes forced to fight Canelo or Beterbiev.

      The rankings of boxing are awful. I'm pro-power brokers of boxing paying less attention to belt rankings. And I'm more pro-power brokers of boxing going for entertainment value & the fights ppl wanna see over everything else. No one gives a fook about the bs #1 belt mando who know one has seen fight & has fought no one to deserve a #1 spot besides abiding by a corrupt belt groups changing daily rules. When a #1 belt group guy legit deserves a belt fight I think fans tend to rally around them getting that shot like we see now with David B for an easy example.


      Imo , Ngannou should never be fighting , of course if he wins. , for the unified heavyweight championship after having a total of 2 fights
      It’s a slap in the face to all boxers who work so hard to get to that point , meaning mma guy is getting this opportunity based on money not achievement
      Its an entertainment sport. Its about asses in seats, ppv buys & social media clicks. If The Rock & that Mamoa Aquaman guy wanted to fight it'd outsell Floyd vs Manny without a doubt in my mind.

      Now would I rather boxing be about whos the best boxer, as someone who wants to know whos #1 at every weight? Sure. But its not what its about & idk that its ever been about that or ever will be. Its about entertainment. Its a business more than a sport for the ppl running things.

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      • Stuntman Mike
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        #33
        If this changes boxing and we get the biggest fights then I'm all for it ..
        if this guy was into this back in 2009 to 11 we could have got pacquiao vs Floyd in their primes

        Get the best in with the best and ngannou is a decent fight if you lot can't see that them you're just narrow minded

        On the bivol or beterbiev going up a weight thats totally up to them if they want to risk it for the money its their lives and career on the line im sure theyll make the best decision for themselves
        Last edited by Stuntman Mike; 01-20-2024, 04:18 PM.

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        • MulaKO
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          #34
          Originally posted by Eff Pandas

          Outside of the Bivol CW thing idek what the weight division stuff has to do about anything. And it feels like you are making it bigger than it is. If Bivol signed a contract with them I'm sure hes implied if not stated outright he is or isn't interested in moving to 200 after Beterbiev. If he is or isn't thats his own choice to make. He won't be forced to fight Jai anymore than hes forced to fight Canelo or Beterbiev.

          The rankings of boxing are awful. I'm pro-power brokers of boxing paying less attention to belt rankings. And I'm more pro-power brokers of boxing going for entertainment value & the fights ppl wanna see over everything else. No one gives a fook about the bs #1 belt mando who know one has seen fight & has fought no one to deserve a #1 spot besides abiding by a corrupt belt groups changing daily rules. When a #1 belt group guy legit deserves a belt fight I think fans tend to rally around them getting that shot like we see now with David B for an easy example.




          Its an entertainment sport. Its about asses in seats, ppv buys & social media clicks. If The Rock & that Mamoa Aquaman guy wanted to fight it'd outsell Floyd vs Manny without a doubt in my mind.

          Now would I rather boxing be about whos the best boxer, as someone who wants to know whos #1 at every weight? Sure. But its not what its about & idk that its ever been about that or ever will be. Its about entertainment. Its a business more than a sport for the ppl running things.
          I agree with some of your comments but others I find it’s some guy with a chitload of money , sitting in his thrown , dictating things

          Anyway , only time will tell what will happen and how it will go down

          And yes , Boxing is no longer a sport , it’s all business $$$$$

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            #35
            Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
            Turki is clearly a bit backward I think. I don’t think he understands the implications of weight classes. I’m ok with him investing in the sport and allowing an experienced promoter or matchmaker to select the fights like Warren has done for the two previous cards. However, I think it’s a terrible idea to let some mega rich Sheikh with no experience in boxing start putting fights together.
            “ I think it’s a terrible idea to let some mega rich Sheikh with no experience in boxing start putting fights together​“


            You do understand Hearn is in charge of most the match making right ? Don’t know about Furys card but it’s been Hearn they’ve been asking what fights to put on , still not sure what Warrens actual purpose is ,I guess just doing paper work and or getting selective fights made and helping put together Hearns cards ? Idk .

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              #36
              Originally posted by juggernaut666
              “ I think it’s a terrible idea to let some mega rich Sheikh with no experience in boxing start putting fights together​“


              You do understand Hearn is in charge of most the match making right ? Don’t know about Furys card but it’s been Hearn they’ve been asking what fights to put on , still not sure what Warrens actual purpose is ,I guess just doing paper work and or getting selective fights made and helping put together Hearns cards ? Idk .
              I wouldn’t be so sure that Slow. Eddie is in charge here
              Everone saw what a total fugh up he was the last time he was put in charge ; Dazn
              Fish eyes is who I think first jumped in bed with his excellency ( still laugh every time I think that what he wants to be called , kind of like the maestro on Seinfeld )
              I’m happy we’re getting these big fights but the rest is up for grabs and only time will tell

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                #37
                Originally posted by MulaKO

                I wouldn’t be so sure that Slow. Eddie is in charge here
                Everone saw what a total fugh up he was the last time he was put in charge ; Dazn
                Fish eyes is who I think first jumped in bed with his excellency ( still laugh every time I think that what he wants to be called , kind of like the maestro on Seinfeld )
                I’m happy we’re getting these big fights but the rest is up for grabs and only time will tell
                - - Fast Eddie been promoting the Biggest $$$ fights in boxing for several years starting with the epic rise of AJ.

                No Promoter is close nor shall be for as long as the youthful Eddie continues. Bellyaches like U gonna bellyache no matter who fights for what trinket or purse.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by QueensburyRules

                  - - Fast Eddie been promoting the Biggest $$$ fights in boxing for several years starting with the epic rise of AJ.

                  No Promoter is close nor shall be for as long as the youthful Eddie continues. Bellyaches like U gonna bellyache no matter who fights for what trinket or purse.
                  Wrong again mofo
                  I don’t give two fughs who promotes a fight or not
                  The bellyache is in your fughin head

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                  • Apollo7
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                    #39
                    Is he demanding anything or is he giving opportunities? I don't think he's putting a gun to these fighter's heads.

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                      #40
                      saudia arabia saved boxing. 9/11 forgiven!

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