Comments Thread For: De La Hoya Calls 'Bull****' on Dana White's Take That MMA Fighters Are Not Making More Money in Boxing

[Smash]

dana not seeing any of this cash so it doesnt exist

[Kirk087]

It's obvious, that Dana White and the UFC take the lion's share and give their fights as little as they can. The bonus for a good performance is bull****. Dana Gamble's away more than he gives his indentured servants

[elfag]

UFC fighters on the bottem end make more than boxing on the bottom end.

Would be more interested in a comparison of how high up the roster you have to go before boxing pays more. Like the 3rd and 4th fights from the main event, compare the two.

Yeah boxing the sky is the limit because its a free market. But I care less about the stars, Jon Jones isnt starving even if he makes 20% of what he would make vs a top end boxer.

[elfag]

Francis even said it about his fight with Fury, that he made more in that fight than damn near his whole career in mma, specifically ufc

That is true but also look at the ticket sales for that event, it didnt do well at all, the Saudis lost money and they are ok with that, it is to promote their country for tourism so they will have these events at a loss, how can the UFC even compete with Saudi princes using oil profits to put on events at a loss? its unrealistic and we get the same situation we got from DAZN when it was burning through venture capital money in its early days, we as fans end up with Golovkin vs Steve Rolls because DAZN will pay him 10-20 million and operate at a loss and now every boxer is refusing to fight good competition because they are waiting out for their steve rolls pay day but its unsustainable for every even to operate at a loss from overpaying the fighters.

At the top end, boxers are overpaid.

[elfag]

I cant imagine other sports doing this, the top end boxers will demand so much money that the promoters have a hard time putting on the fight to break even. I cant think of another sport that does this, could you imagine the NFL playoffs operating at a loss?

but two massive names like Fury vs Francis and they lost money on it.

You got examples like Ruiz vs Wilder, that never materialized because the two fighters demanded so much that the event woudl be a guaranteed loss for the promoters and this was a fight the public would have wanted to see. Could you imagine if other sports worked that way, if they are like "Well we have to skip game 4 of the world series because the players want too much money"

[tomhawq]

It's general knowledge that MMA fighters don't make much, but not all boxers in boxing get big pay days. Only the established ones do, which is probably less than 5%. The rest or undercard types make as little as around $50 K. Big difference is MMA/UFC is able to spread the money around and not just focus on one main event, which in boxing, takes 90% of the funds. And in MMA, undercards almost seemed like main cards. And they're able to come up with weekly events.

No doubt, MMA is more mainstream than boxing. Not a day goes by when replays of their shows is seen on certain hours of the day, unlike boxing. They have loyal fanbase.

[elfag]

If by realistic you mean screwed out of the lion's share then sure. Bob Arum said it best when he said the ones throwing the punches should be making the most money.

HBO and Showtime pulling out had less to do with what they payed fighters, and more so to do with their failed business model. That's not the boxer's fault. The business side of things fall on the promoter and network. Boxers should get plenty for risking their lives and brain damage for our entertainment.

You seem pretty knowledgeable, my guy, but I question some of these choices. Like defending the UFC on a boxing website.

UFC fans have it better than boxing fans, they get more match ups and much quicker than boxing fans. UFC sees more guys near prime fighting each other. In boxing we get "let it marinate for 5 years".

call it "Defending UFC" or whatever you want to call it, I call it telling it like it is.

Also "Bob Arum said it best when he said the ones throwing the punches should be making the most money." bro that is only on the top end, at the bottom end the guys are taking even more damage than the stars while getting paid peanuts, they have to take sparing partner jobs and there is no health insurance or pension or anything for them.

I know I probably come off as a socialist which i am far from but there are a lot of negatives in the boxing world I am just telling it like it is.

It does little for fans that the high end is unlimited or that canelo get 40 million vs 20 million for a fight, what difference does it even make to his life style. The guy still wont fight david benavidez, if he was in the UFC dana would have demanded it already and we would get our fight.

[Willow The Wisp]

UFC fighters on the bottem end make more than boxing on the bottom end.

Would be more interested in a comparison of how high up the roster you have to go before boxing pays more. Like the 3rd and 4th fights from the main event, compare the two.

Yeah boxing the sky is the limit because its a free market. But I care less about the stars, Jon Jones isnt starving even if he makes 20% of what he would make vs a top end boxer.

Don't forget that the UFC is the sport of MMA's Major Leagues. Just getting into the UFC is "making it" for an MMA fighter, and the vast majority never do.
I have reams of statistics that I compiled on the sport, some of which were published on a site called "MMA PAYOUT", which cut through the BS put out by the UFC and others. However, those are rather old now. The earnings are considerably higher in Boxing from the small shows on up; and the ceiling is ridiculously higher for boxing.
Jon Jones is certainly not "starving" with a career earning of 3 million, but he'll never make what Ngannou is making in Boxing (20 million for Joshua) if he holds the UFC Alpha-dog title until he's 60.
It isn'tteven close. If you want to crack into the big money for fighting, Boxing is your only good choice.
Dana has plenty of issues maintaining that sport.
Waining interest, contract renewals and labor are certainly three of them.

[brettWall]

UFC/MMA fighters love their sport so much. They get battered and bruised, but they keep coming back for a hefty sum of money. They knew they're not going to be millionaires, but they keep coming back.

[Smash]

https://www.mmafighting.com/2023/8/2...amain-sterling

recent ufc card

interesting that UFC strawweight champion Zhang Weili took home the biggest disclosed payday at UFC 292.
and She was not even the main event