Comments Thread For: Team Beterbiev on Drug Testing Concerns Ahead of Smith Fight: 'What's Rich Is This is Coming From Eddie Hearn'

[CasperUK]

The HGH and testosterone levels are either in normal range or they’re not. Isnt Beterbiev almost 40 years old. He shouldn’t have high levels of either.

Well it depends on who you're comparing it too.

If you're comparing him to the average 38 year old man then yes Beterbiev has elevated HGH and testosterone levels - he eats clean, sleeps early, trains like a maniac and doesn't take drugs or drink alcohol. Those are all factors that contribute to raised levels of those hormones purely through lifestyle choices.

If however, you're comparing him to someone who DOES inject HGH and take TRT then his levels were lower.

Then you have to take into account his genetics. He has low bodyfat, dense bones and huge hands. Those are signs of people with larger than usual Test and HGH. Also, he's pure Caucus.They don't mix with other races at all. Their women don't marry outside of Chechen tribes so they have very distinct genetic markers.

VADA are also the strictest tests - or amongst them - much stricter than UKAD and even though could not find grounds to say it was an adverse finding. It was atypical because:

- It was under the threshhold
- There are extranerous variables to take into factor - when the tests were done, how close was it after a training session? What were blood, oxygen and other hormonal levels like at the time?
- Genetic factors

[SteveM]

Intermittent fasting (******), reduced water intake (cutting for a fight), HIGH intensity (his workouts) - Beterbiev is the perfect formula for high HGH and test levels before a fight. Do you see the independent labs releasing the concentrations? They don't want to be embarrassed and discredited by laymen because of Hearn's shenanigans. As I said there is no significance as in 460 (39 regular guy) vs 470 (beterbev which is atypical for his age group).

If you listen to his interviews, Beterbiev likes to test guys' punching power in early rounds with his high guard, he did it with Browne, J Smith, and Yarde. Get him off his game and maybe he rushes in and Lame Smith catches him cold with a left hook.

The first fighter I've seen turn a 50 lb barbell as a part of his training routine and that would include the confirmed drug addicts.

I don't see how you could fail to have higher testosterone and HGH levels doing all that

[MulaKO]

If he fasted for 5 days - just water and bone broth say - to lose some weight back in December - that causes your HGH to increase 1200% - that's be atypical right?

Half the people that are commenting on this , don’t say a fughin word when a guy gets busted for peds
But here they are all chiming in just like a flock of seagulls
My take , well Smith was scared straight by Canelo so .........
Canelo fans are just biatches cause they know their guy has no possible chance vs Beterbiev
And last but not least , when Beterbiev beats Bivol in unification , you know , they ain’t got no comeback
Your statement is actually almost the same thing posted if you google fasting and what it causes to athletes
But why go with facts when we can just have bullchit thrown at the wall and see what sticks
Smfh

[Smash]

eddie im sure was given all the info by the testing agency but he wants more info lol

u mean u want people to know about he atypical result u mean eddie

oh wheres dillion whyes B samples lol

that would be some mission impossible task to find those id say

[SteveM]

Half the people that are commenting on this , don’t say a fughin word when a guy gets busted for peds
But here they are all chiming in just like a flock of seagulls
My take , well Smith was scared straight by Canelo so .........
Canelo fans are just biatches cause they know their guy has no possible chance vs Beterbiev
And last but not least , when Beterbiev beats Bivol in unification , you know , they ain’t got no comeback
Your statement is actually almost the same thing posted if you google fasting and what it causes to athletes
But why go with facts when we can just have bullchit thrown at the wall and see what sticks
Smfh

It makes sense to fast - - train - eat and repeat , max weight loss and muscle growth ,
I tend to think most fighters are on Peds but this test result is in no way shape or form an indication that Artur is.

[SteveM]

Half the people that are commenting on this , don’t say a fughin word when a guy gets busted for peds
But here they are all chiming in just like a flock of seagulls
My take , well Smith was scared straight by Canelo so .........
Canelo fans are just biatches cause they know their guy has no possible chance vs Beterbiev
And last but not least , when Beterbiev beats Bivol in unification , you know , they ain’t got no comeback
Your statement is actually almost the same thing posted if you google fasting and what it causes to athletes
But why go with facts when we can just have bullchit thrown at the wall and see what sticks
Smfh

Canelo needs to see at least one David before he gets in with Goliath

[MulaKO]

It makes sense to fast - - train - eat and repeat , max weight loss and muscle growth ,
I tend to think most fighters are on Peds but this test result is in no way shape or form an indication that Artur is.

I also believe the sport would be better off by letting the fighters juice then this chit would be avoided
Then it would be just a question of how much do you wanna spend on peds , masking etc etc etc
Anyway , the guy hasn’t tested positive for peds but he’s already getting accused of it cause it fits an agenda
Ffs , posters here after a fighter is caught are still trying to say he’s not on peds or it’s all a mistake
By the way , Canelo will surprise me if he gets in the ring with one David let alone two
Goliath ? He doesn’t even breathe the same air

[kafkod]

So Mark Ramsey's explanation for Artur Beterbiev's atypical test result is that he's still waiting for Dillian Whyte's B sample.

Mmmm, I'll have to think about that for a while ....

[_Rexy_]

So Mark Ramsey's explanation for Artur Beterbiev's atypical test result is that he's still waiting for Dillian Whyte's B sample.

Mmmm, I'll have to think about that for a while ....

Well, only one of the two failed a drug test, and it wasn’t Beterbiev.

[kafkod]

Well, only one of the two failed a drug test, and it wasn’t Beterbiev.

What happened to Beterbiev's B sample?