So Beterbiev tested for high levels of HGH and testosterone

[ShoulderRoll]

Yeah? And your point is?

This is su****ious, yes. Just like Vergil Ortiz having a condition linked with PED use and on the verge of kidney failure in his 20's is su****ious.

You label one a cheat and the other the opposite.

You claim Canelo is "likely clean" despite failing multiple drug tests because he passed VADA tests and label Ngannou "assuredly" on PEDs despite the fact he's never failed a test on a 10 year USADA program and also passed a VADA test.

Your reason for Ngannou being "assuredly" on PED's is because he has big muscles at 37 years old. All whilst labelling Mayweather clean who's not only extremely muscled at an older age but for boxing standards is in 100 times better shape than Ngannou.

That's your problem, you're a hypocrite. In your defense I don't think it's conscious, you're just fuckin ****** and don't understand the first thing about this topic. But you should definitely stop talking on them.

With Vergil Ortiz I asked why people were rushing to accuse him of PED use as he doesn’t have any red flags besides the rhabdo…which could very well result from overtraining as it notably has for Crossfitters for example.

I said Ngannou is “almost assuredly” on PEDs.

Floyd isn’t as heavily muscled as Ngannou. Not even close.

About Canelo all I have said is that his reasoning for why he had clen in his system was believable.

I was a fan of Alycia Baumgardner but that hasn’t stopped me from criticizing her for her failed PED test. In Beterbiev’s case I’ve never accused him prior to this.

[CasperUK]

What are you talking about? I never said Canelo was innocent. Just that his explanation was believable…but that at the end of the day he was still responsible for what goes in his body regardless.

Beterbiev didn’t fail a test but these abnormal findings do make him suspect (it’s not just his muscles at his age.) Coincidentally there has been a long time between fights and between tests for him.

Beterbiev is in the WBC 365 programme.

VADA do all the testing.

He's never failed a PEDs test.

He isn't heavily muscled either. He is lean and sinewy. He looks like a swimmer or a gymnast rather than a bodybuilder.

[ShoulderRoll]

Beterbiev is in the WBC 365 programme.

VADA do all the testing.

He's never failed a PEDs test.

He isn't heavily muscled either. He is lean and sinewy. He looks like a swimmer or a gymnast rather than a bodybuilder.

Beterbiev hasn’t failed a PEDs test, that is true.

But the levels of testosterone and HGH in his system were atypical. Which is a little suspect at almost 39 years age.

[Superbee]

that's Smith's best chance tbh, an angry Beterbiev getting caught in an exchange.

Yeah, just like the Browne fight, right ? Browne was doing OK up until he head butted Beterbiev... What happened after that was PG rated if I remember correctly ...

[Loque-san]

I think Mexican fighters hold that honour. Remember when Mauricio even said they werent going to fail guys for Clen unless it’s at high levels?

I was actually including all sports, not just boxing.

[CasperUK]

Increased levels of 5-alpha-dihydrotestosterone (5α-DHT) can be influenced by various factors, including:
1. **Hormonal Imbalance:** Fluctuations in hormone levels, particularly an increase in testosterone, can lead to higher conversion to 5α-DHT.

2. **Genetics:** Genetic factors play a role in the rate at which testosterone is converted to 5α-DHT. Some individuals may have a predisposition to higher levels.

3. **Age:** With age, the activity of the enzyme 5-alpha reductase, responsible for converting testosterone to 5α-DHT, may increase, contributing to higher levels.

4. **Medical Conditions:** Certain medical conditions, such as polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS) in women or benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH) in men, can be associated with elevated 5α-DHT.

5. **Medications:** Some medications, like anabolic steroids or certain testosterone replacement therapies, may increase 5α-DHT levels.

It's important to note that while 5α-DHT is a potent androgen, it's also associated with various physiological functions. However, elevated levels can be linked to conditions such as androgenetic alopecia (male pattern baldness) and benign prostatic hyperplasia.

Furthermore - equally important to know that Beterbiev did not fail a PEDs test; no anabolic steroids were found in his system on the 6th December and ALL tests conducted afterwards.

Atypical
Negative
Negative

Eddie Hearn can play up to the cameras all he wants but bottom line is that this is not a repeat of Conor Benn and he can't fake ignorance anymore.

[Superbee]

Beterbiev hasn’t failed a PEDs test, that is true.

But the levels of testosterone and HGH in his system were atypical. Which is a little suspect at almost 39 years age.

I bet you my House that atypical levels of HGH and Testosterone happen in Normal/Non sports people as well... Unless you believe we're all clones of course...

[CasperUK]

Beterbiev hasn’t failed a PEDs test, that is true.

But the levels of testosterone and HGH in his system were atypical. Which is a little suspect at almost 39 years age.

To naturally increase human growth hormone (HGH) and testosterone levels, consider the following lifestyle adjustments:
**For HGH:**

1. **High-Intensity Exercise:** Engage in high-intensity interval training (HIIT) and strength training. These activities can stimulate HGH release.

2. **Adequate Sleep:** Ensure you get quality sleep as a significant amount of HGH is released during deep sleep.

3. **Intermittent Fasting:** Some studies suggest that intermittent fasting can boost HGH production.

4. **L-Arginine Supplementation:** This amino acid may help stimulate HGH release, but consult a healthcare professional before taking supplements.

5. **Reducing Sugar Intake:** High sugar levels can suppress HGH production, so reducing sugar consumption may be beneficial.

**For Testosterone:**

1. **Strength Training:** Regular resistance training, especially compound exercises like squats and deadlifts, can increase testosterone levels.

2. **Adequate Sleep:** Quality sleep is crucial for maintaining healthy testosterone levels.

3. **Healthy Fats:** Include sources of healthy fats in your diet, such as avocados, nuts, and olive oil, as they support testosterone production.

4. **Vitamin D:** Ensure sufficient vitamin D levels through sunlight exposure or supplements, as it plays a role in testosterone production.

5. **Zinc-Rich Foods:** Zinc is essential for testosterone synthesis, and foods like oysters, beef, and pumpkin seeds are good sources.

6. **Stress Management:** Chronic stress can lead to increased cortisol levels, which can suppress testosterone production. Practice stress-reducing activities like meditation or yoga.

Remember that individual responses may vary, and it's advisable to consult with a healthcare professional before making significant lifestyle changes or taking supplements.

Basically live clean, eat well, exercise regularly and you can have better testosterone and HGH levels too.

[IronDanHamza]

With Vergil Ortiz I asked why people were rushing to accuse him of PED use as he doesn’t have any red flags besides the rhabdo…which could very well result from overtraining as it notably has for Crossfitters for example.

Right...

And there could also be a plethora of reasons why Beterbiev has elevated test levels outside of suspected PED use.

You deem one a (Russian) cheat and the other to "not rush to accuse".

That's the point.

I said Ngannou is “almost assuredly” on PEDs.

Yes I am very aware you have accused Ngannou of being assuredly on PED's with no evidence what so ever.

Floyd isn’t as heavily muscled as Ngannou. Not even close.

Neither is Brandon Rios. Are you still not seeing the problem with your ****** logic?

And for what it's worth, for the dimensions they are, Floyd was in WAY better shape than Ngannou at an older age than Ngannou.

About Canelo all I have said is that his reasoning for why he had clen in his system was believable.

I was a fan of Alycia Baumgardner but that hasn’t stopped me from criticizing her for her failed PED test. In Beterbiev’s case I’ve never accused him prior to this.

No, you said he's "likely clean", despite the fact he's failed multiple drug tests, because he's passed a handful of VADA tests.

Whilst claiming Ngannou who has never failed a test in 10+ years of being randomly tested year round by USADA is "assuredly on PEDs".

[jaded]

High 5b-Androstanediol levels without increased testosterone levels are an indication of inflammation. His testosterone levels were not found to be over the limit, neither were his 5b-Androstanediol levels for that matter. This is a lot of nothing to do with anything. 5b-Androstanediol is just a pathway in which your body chooses to metabolize testosterone. If he failed a test they would have said so...he didn't nor did anyone claim he did.

Read this...

https://healthmatters.io/understand-...stanediol-male