So Beterbiev tested for high levels of HGH and testosterone

[Jsmooth9876]

I don't know if AB is juicing or not but let me say, If you can't get away with juicing as a boxer, you're just an imbecile. You know exactly when you're fighting, sometimes 4-5 months out and at least usually 3 months out. Most these big names fight around the same time every year like Canelo in May and September. So easy to stack on and off and come up clean

[Smash]

you could have an adverse finding that is a non-event, and you could have an atypical finding that is genuinely dangerous.

this is getting complicated

[_Rexy_]

Did you feel the same way when UKAD "cleared" Dillian Whyte ahead of the Rivas fight and then subsequently cleared him of all wrongdoing on the basis of the evidence pointing to an isolated contamination event?

Personally I'm comfortable that they're all doping to some extent, but that the scientists can dictate whether someone is within the current rules or not.

The issue really shouldn't be whether a finding is adverse, or atypical. Who really cares? They both suggest doping... but is there actually a danger posed? Based on what we're seeing you could have an adverse finding that is a non-event, and you could have an atypical finding that is genuinely dangerous.

No I did not feel the same way when UKAD had a secret meeting clearing Whyte regardless of the VADA test, and without letting the second party know of thee two FAILED TESTS

Those situations are not even remotely close to being the same

[ShoulderRoll]

shoulderroll logic:
Canelo busts x2 for PEDS ' he's obviously innocent, he's cleared he ate a tainted taco ' !

Beterbiev never fails a test in his career. he has muscles = probably cheating

What are you talking about? I never said Canelo was innocent. Just that his explanation was believable…but that at the end of the day he was still responsible for what goes in his body regardless.

Beterbiev didn’t fail a test but these abnormal findings do make him suspect (it’s not just his muscles at his age.) Coincidentally there has been a long time between fights and between tests for him.

[Smash]

Did you feel the same way when UKAD "cleared" Dillian Whyte ahead of the Rivas fight and then subsequently cleared him of all wrongdoing on the basis of the evidence pointing to an isolated contamination event?

u mean evidence pointing to a career cheat but carry on anyway much more likely

[IronDanHamza]

shoulderroll logic:
Canelo busts x2 for PEDS ' he's obviously innocent, he's cleared he ate a tainted taco ' !

Beterbiev never fails a test in his career. he has muscles = probably cheating

ShoulderRoll goes as far as to say Canelo is "likely clean" because he passed some VADA tests after testing positive twice for PEDs.

At the same time says Francis Ngannou is "assuredly on PEDs" because of his physique. Despite the fact Ngannou has been in a 24/7 365 USADA program for a decade and has never failed a test and has also passed a VADA test.

The levels of ******ity are so high you'd think it's satire.

[Mammoth]

No I did not feel the same way when UKAD had a secret meeting clearing Whyte regardless of the VADA test, and without letting the second party know of thee two FAILED TESTS

Those situations are not even remotely close to being the same

Lol Whyte had actual PEDs in his system, Beterbiev had high levels of stuff our bodies make naturally. You're giving these guys too much time.

[Superbee]

This wasn't released by Matchroom

No, but Fast Eddy was prone to make it known that they are "worried" ... Also... he says they know about about since December... If it was such a concern from them, why bringing it now ?

[dan-b]

Is Eddie the one who reported it?

This is actually a very good question and I don't know the answer. But I do know this is the problem with contracting in a third party like VADA to do testing on an adhoc basis rather than have overall governance which includes testing protocols.

All contracting parties get to see the results which leaves room for leaks, whether they're justified or not. It's also creates problems for who presides over these results. The British Boxing Board of Control were not sure if they could legally act on Benn's adverse VADA finding, which is why it took so long and was legally challenged.

[ShoulderRoll]

I just hope Callum isn’t seriously hurt or injured by this man.