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Originally posted by Oracle01 View Post
I bet barely anyone could tell you how many fighters were lineal and how many times. Its an ESPN statistic it just sounds good on paper, in reality it means crap. REAL legacy is about who you fought and when, not how many cheap accolades you scrapped up. Thats the problem with boxing today. Fighters chasing crap like this instead of fighting top opponents, and muppets like you give them credit for it.
Again, the only 4 division lineal champions in the history of boxing are Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Manny Pacquiao. If you think fighting a guy with no major wins for a belt he already vacated is more important than that, you're nuts. The best win Ennis has is a shopworn Lipinets.
There's a big damn difference between being a belt holder and being the lineal/TBRB/Ring Magazine Champion of a division.
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This is one of the 3 items I found in my quick search about rematch clauses. Not one of them mentioned anything about deadlines, but this one mentions "when."
What is a Rematch Clause in Boxing?
https://thesportsreviewer.com/what-i...use-in-boxing/
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How Does It Work?
Once two boxers agree on terms for the first fight, including how much each participant will receive in compensation (known as “the purse”), they then need to decide whether or not they want to include a rematch clause in their contract prior to signing it off on behalf of both parties involved. The promoter also needs to sign off on any provisions stipulated within this specific portion, which usually includes details regarding when/how often bouts may occur, etc… Should both sides agree upon these points ahead of time, then all goes according to schedule– however, if either party disagrees at anytime thereafter, then renegotiations must take place prior boxing match taking place again otherwise, no new match may happen until everyone is able to come to an agreeable consensus about how rematches ought to proceed going forward under these circumstances per se..
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Originally posted by Oracle01 View Post
Exactly this whole situation is a joke. Something is off. I suspect Bud might be using it as an excuse to sit on the side lines. If you active a rematch clause you have to make the fight and a date immediately not 6 months later.
It frustrates me that fans (and possibly himself) have been pushing for him to take on Canelo taking away the opportunities for top conteders at 168 that actually have competed at the division for the belts.
Honestly I think might just be a waste of time due to the gap of three weigh divisions.
Bud's most competitive performance at 147 besides a semi retired porter was against the big hitter and counter puncher in Egis "Mean Machine" Kavaliuskas, whose not only physically quite smaller. But less proven and skilled compared to Alvarez. The Gap in size might be just be too much.Last edited by Malvado; 01-10-2024, 10:04 PM.
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Originally posted by Feroz View Post
It frustrates me that fans (and possibly himself) have been pushing for him to take on Canelo taking away the opportunities for top conteders at 168 that actually have competed at the division for the belts.
Honestly I think might just be a waste of time due to the gap of three weigh divisions.
All this huge divisional jump stuff is nonsense and a waste of time and brain cells for the smaller fighter.
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Originally posted by MulaKO View PostNow that it’s all but confirmed , that Spence has had some kind of surgery on his eye , the rematch won’t happen for another give or take six months minimum ( recovery , training camp and a little more aging out )
My question is , why isn’t Boots calling Bud out now knowing that the rematch ain’t happening for a while ?
Wouldn’t now be the perfect time to lay it on the line ?
Isn’t this the time to call out a fighter knowing that he ain’t got a fight coming up because of the aforementioned circumstances ?
Boots should be screaming from the rooftops to anyone and everyone who dares to listenLast edited by MONGOOSE66; 01-10-2024, 10:26 PM.Oracle01 likes this.
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Originally posted by MONGOOSE66 View Post
Hanging out with tank probably. Scheming on how to make money with no risk, which ain’t hard to do at Welterweight. Theirs NO MONEY in that weight class except to fight Bud or Spence. Lots of undefeated fighter who are scared to fight one another though.
Now that Spence is out for at least 4 to 6 months , Boots is nowhere to be found
Lmfao
And yes , you stand correct saying many unblemished records are petrified to face each other giving themselves no credit or worthiness to fight the upper echelon
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The real question is who is going to put up the money to meet Crawford's purse demand after just making a career high pay day?STREET CLEANER likes this.
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Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post
Yet those same fans aren't clamoring for their hero Tank Davis to come up 3 divisions to fight Crawford, or, since he's already fought at 140, to take on Jermell or Tszyu, who are arguably softer touches than Bud. They're not suggesting Canelo should go up 3 divisions and fight Tyson Fury or Usyk either. But they've got no problem telling Bud and Inoue to jump up 3 divisions or else they're just bums.
All this huge divisional jump stuff is nonsense and a waste of time and brain cells for the smaller fighter.
It's not the lack of skill or power, the gap in the body weight is just too much. If someone were to push for Gervonta Davis against Subriel Matias, Devin Haney or Teofimo Lopez. Fighters from one division above, the same people pushing for Crawford vs Canelo would complaining that Tank is too small since he is 5'6 despite that he beat Pedraza, Barrios and Garcia who are physically around the same size.
Imagine if he were to fight a Jermell Charlo or Tim Tszyu which are three divisions above lightweight. Tim is shorter than Ryan Garcia, but these weight classes based on their body frames, not height.
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Originally posted by Feroz View Post
I agree.
It's not the lack of skill or power, the gap in the body weight is just too much. If someone were to push for Gervonta Davis against Subriel Matias, Devin Haney or Teofimo Lopez. Fighters from one division above, the same people pushing for Crawford vs Canelo would complaining that Tank is too small since he is 5'6 despite that he beat Pedraza, Barrios and Garcia who are physically around the same size.
Imagine if he were to fight a Jermell Charlo or Tim Tszyu which are three divisions above lightweight. Tim is shorter than Ryan Garcia, but these weight classes based on their body frames, not height.
Imagine the logic there lolMalvado likes this.
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