Comments Thread For: Matias: The Best 140 Is Here - Not Teofimo, P-ssy; No Ryan; No Haney, Chicken; No Rolly, He's A Joker

[eco1]

Matias is the next Beterbiev of boxing IMO. Huge power, will to win, takes chances and has no fear.

Haney might UD him, but who cares.
He stops Garcia.
He ends Rolly's farce. I mean career
Teo and him is a good matchup. Teo is a great athlete. But I see Matias stopping him. Teo would do well for a few rounds but Matias's puts on too much pressure and Teo eventually cracks. Then comes up with an injury as an excuse.

I would like to see all the good fights as everyone else.

Matias will never be a Beterbiev, Artur does box and does so many subtle things that casuals can't pick up. He doesn't get hit as much as one would think, uses his arms and gloves a lot and pressures with a high IQ.

I have not seen too much of Matias but I think he is more of a brawler who takes a few to deliver a few.

Anyway, as I said, I want to see all the good fights.

[MONGOOSE66]

Ergashev only landed 18% of his punches against Matias and Ponce only landed 21%. The LW average is 29%. The only one that was blocking punches with his face and big Doug Funny nose was Lopez against Kambosos and Martin. Matias in his career never been beaten as badly as that. Lopez has tons of scar tissue on his nose thanks to Kambosos who Lopez ducked in a rematch. If pillow fist Kambo can do that to Lopez, imagine what happens when Matias taps Lopez once? Lopez keeps his head in the center line and he's not Floyd Jr or Whitaker or Camacho. Lopez gets hit and he hasn't stopped anyone in 5 years. Lopez has 0 KOs/TKOs since 2019 and you can't even name who it was against without google.

there's alot of fake hype saying Matias doesn't have "defense". Matias won 80 of his 100 amateur fights, he has an extensive amateur background. He got shot twice at age 21 and 22, and served 19 months of prison before he went pro at 24. Matias only been pro for 6 years, but he slips shots and catches punches on the glove.

Fighting substandard fighters will make any fighter look good. Hes fought NO ONE of the caliber of Teo. Easy money for Teo. But not much of any money. I wonder why?

[tomhawq]

Like people here say, depending on their biases, talk is cheap. Anyone can call out anybody. The action is always lacking.

[LAchargers373]

That's what you're hoping. That's not what you're knowing. Good thing YDKSAB. Lopez hasnt had any KOs/TKOs since 2019. That's been 5 years.

- what you fail to realize is Lopez is a small 140. Josh Taylor vacated the IBF belt to avoid Matias, Matias who called out Taylor 5 years ago and got ignored. Unlike Teofimo Lopez, Subriel Matias would TKO and stop Taylor. Boxing isn't all about KOs, but Matias finishes the job so it won't go to the judges. Lopez does not have punching power at 140 and he has to work in volume. I will repeat this for you. Lopez has to work in volume and accumulate his shots to round 12. This wont work against Matias who is a true volume puncher and doesn't have to load up to hurt you, Matias throws 88 punches a round; highest volume at lightweight ahead of Arnold Barboza whos 2nd. Matias has an iron chin and Lopez has been proven to be chinny. Lopez dropped by pillow fist Kambosos who opened him up like Mankind @ Hell in the Cell 1998. Lopez isn't Floyd Jr. Lopez is flashy but he's very hittable and he keeps his head in the center line alot which will be at his disadvantage against Matias. Matias will beat Lopez to near death and Lopez father would probably be too intoxicated to throw in the towel. Hate to see Lopez lose his life that way.

Matias is a high volume puncher who's very dangerous in later rounds. Matias throws everything in the book and he doesn't throw wild. He lands at 39% which is very high for a volume puncher (88-100 punches a round) . Lopez doesn't even come close to 40 a round. Lopez is a 1-2 punch guy. Matias is throwing 6-8 hits at an unconventional timing. Matias doesn't throw wide like Lopez (Lopez has a short reach). Matias has a better jab than Lopez. Matias jab is his most used punched and it hits like a cross. Matias throws short arm punches that slip inside his oppoents arms. Lopez will be tagged up all night, sent to the hospital in 5 and possibly deleted from this earth like Dadashev. Matias isnt the guy Lopez wants to fight anyone since Lopez sent a pumpfake offer (Feb 8th when Matias fought the 25th)instead an offer for when Matias returns (March). Lopez had 1 win at 140 and you're acting like hes the goat for beating a UK hypejob who lost to Caterall and ducked Matias for 5 years. Taylor gets TKOed by Matias. Lopez resume full of handicaps and ducks. Matias being one of the guys he's completely avoiding, for good reason.

1. Shohjahon Ergashev undefeated pro who was ranked #3 at the IBF and was ducked by Catterall/Hitchins who are #1/#2 at the IBF.
2. Jeremiah Ponce - undefeated Argentine pro who had a belt and was ranked top 5 in the IBF.
3. Jumkembayev - undefeated prospect who was ranked by ring magazine and currently is ranked top in the IBF. Won 4 in a row after the Matias fight.
4. Malik Hawkins - undefeated contender who was promoted by Mayweather promotions and was picked as the favorite to beat Matias but got TKOed.
5. Fernando David Saucedo, pro who won 62 matches in his career and Matias fought him when Matias only had 12 fights.


What makes Matias dangerous is his jab, his ability to cut off the ring and his infighting/being dangerous in the clinch. Matias knows how to reach his opponents because he knows how to cut off the ring and Matias is 5"10 with a 72 inch reach. He has a very good ability to shorten his punches which increases his accuracy. Matias knows how to slip his shots in between his opponents loops. Check the Ponce fight to see Matias utilize this. If you hold Matias you're getting beat up. Matias throws 100 punches a round and he only throws more when the rounds get deeper. His style beats slick boxers. Hitchins and Caterall both ducked Matias in 2023. If the #2 and #1 guy in the IBF are ducking you, then you know youre a problem. If you called out Prograis and Taylor since 2019 and they showed zero energy to make a fight happen, then you know you're a problem. If Bill Haney has to lie about 4 million and Peter Khan and Lopez had to calculated pick Feb 8th instead of a genuine date then you know you're a problem. Matias honestly would have TKOed Taylor and Prograis, Lopez/Haney couldn't finish them because they dont have that volume/power at 140 and have to rely on outboxing their opponents. Haney and Lopez are extremely skilled no one is denying that, but Matias style negates skills. Check out Coach Mario Boxing on youtube he explains perfectly for 19 minutes on why unconventional pressure fighting beats slick boxing.

also about the Anayan loss. Did you even eatch the fight? It was a controversial decision because people who saw the fight had Matias winning 7 rounds. It was the ruled KD that gave Anayan the 10-8. Matias credited his poor preformance to drinking/smoking after the Dadashev death. Unlike Teofimo ducking a rematch with Kambosos who didnt have a controversial win, he beat Lopez up badly, Matias didnt duck a rematch and he avenged his loss in TKO fashion. You cant even name the last guy Lopez knockout but you want to highlight a fight that happen years ago that Matias proved it wasnt him. Matias last 5 opponents were 105-2 and he stopped them all. If Kambosos can crack Lopez up like an egg what do you think happens when Matias taps him once?

Lol I mean u claim Matias should get a pass for the ananyan loss? At least lopez has a legit reason for his poor performance against kambosos dude was a walking corpse.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...ught-air-chest

You seem very personally invested in this I find that really funny lol. Truth is YDKSAB. Who has Matias actually beat? And again he recently got beat by a bum in anayan don’t give me that “he was drinking too much” excuse stfu lmao. I like Matias tbh. Just think he’s being anointed a little too soon by the clowns like yourself. I’m a lot older than you I’ve seen many fighters come up just like Matias. One comes to mind right away and that’s ferocious Fernando Vargas. All the morons like yourself said he’d knock tito out blah blah blah lmao. Go take a history clown cause YDKSAB LMAO hilarious u claim Taylor dropped the IBF to avoid Mathias to lmao he was gonna rematch catteral then ended up fighting lopez for more money. Mathias was never even offered or on the palate like foh nice little narrative u wrote yourself there ROFL

[agueybana]

Lol I mean u claim Matias should get a pass for the ananyan loss? At least lopez has a legit reason for his poor performance against kambosos dude was a walking corpse.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...ught-air-chest

You seem very personally invested in this I find that really funny lol. Truth is YDKSAB. Who has Matias actually beat? And again he recently got beat by a bum in anayan don’t give me that “he was drinking too much” excuse stfu lmao. I like Matias tbh. Just think he’s being anointed a little too soon by the clowns like yourself. I’m a lot older than you I’ve seen many fighters come up just like Matias. One comes to mind right away and that’s ferocious Fernando Vargas. All the morons like yourself said he’d knock tito out blah blah blah lmao. Go take a history clown cause YDKSAB LMAO hilarious u claim Taylor dropped the IBF to avoid Mathias to lmao he was gonna rematch catteral then ended up fighting lopez for more money. Mathias was never even offered or on the palate like foh nice little narrative u wrote yourself there ROFL

1. Matias avenged his rematch. Lopez till this day never rematched Kambosos despite being offered a rematch by Kambosos.


https://www.essentiallysports.com/bo...es-next-fight/


Following his first defeat, his father Teofimo Lopez Sr. sat down for an interview with Radio Rahim. “No rematch, man. My mistake was leaving my son at 135 so long because in this game you gotta knock everybody out. If you don’t knock everybody out, this is what happens. It was a complete robbery, we dictated the fight from the beginning, aggressively, taking all those points.”


2. Not only the Lopez team ducked the Kambosos rematch, they made up this theory that you need to knockout to win? Lopez hasnt had a TKO since 2019 and he couldn't even stop Josh Taylor. Lopez doesn't have dangerous power at 140, and his style ages poorly with age. Lopez gets hits alot and he isn't a great pressure fighter like Matias nor does he possess Matias finishing ability. Lopez throws wide looping shots and it will destroy Lopez when he finds out Matias throws short compact shots that will slip through his guard and crack his big nose open.

3. So we confirmed Lopez is a duck. 95% of your essay was nonsense. You trying to argue and fight when facts were dropped to you shows you're emotional. Relax this is a boxing forum, I'm not your therapist.

4. Someone doesnt watch boxing lol
That Anayan fight was the fight right after Matias killed Dadashev. Matias was messed up and understandably. But you didn't know Matias rematched that Armenian and stopped him in brutal fashion.

Taylor is scared shytless of Matias that's a fact. After unheralded mandatory Catterall trounced Josh Taylor but Taylor got a disgusting gift decision to keep his belts anyways, he's dropped 3 of them to avoid more mandatories, which really makes him look like he's afraid of being further exposed. Really makes one question how he ever found himself on the pound for pound list at all.

5. "Go take a history clown"

what does that even mean?
next time you post to me really think about what you're saying.

[agueybana]

Fighting substandard fighters will make any fighter look good. Hes fought NO ONE of the caliber of Teo. Easy money for Teo. But not much of any money. I wonder why?

Good to know you don't boxing. If you think a fight at MSG won't sell, then we both know why you box. Teofimo couldn't even sell out the smallest room at MSG, he's fighting on a Thursday and what was his biggest draw? You're acting like Lopez is Canelo/Floyd Jr.

Lopez was a top rank prospect who has no knockouts since 2019. He got exposed by Kambosos and Martin, ducked a rematch with both. Despite being highly promoted, he has flopped and has an Adrien Broner type trajectory.

Now you're rating him as the King because he beat Josh Taylor? The same man who ducked Matias and would rather get beat up for 12 rounds against pillow fist Lopez than fight Matias for 1. Matias finishes Taylor, unlike Teofimo.

Lopez somehow is the man now for beating a duck who lost to Caterall. Caterall, Taylor both ducked an opportunity to fight Matias, as well Hitchins. Ask yourself why? Matias is a killer. Hes in that ring to make you suffer and Lopez doesnt have the punch threshold to go to war. All that scar tissue on his Doug Funny nose, Matias will gut him under 20 punches landed. Lopez doesnt have Floyd level boxing. Hes hittable and leaves himself open for counter shots, with his low work volume. Matias will delete Lopez from this planet, it won't be close. I gurantee I will bump this thread after the fight and remind you how new you are to boxing. Lopez has never faced anyone like Matias and if Lopez is man enough, what's his excuse after Feb 8th?

Lopez retired for 8 months because he was emotional over no one believing he was worth 20 million ( I wonder why ) to fight Jermaine Ortiz on a Thursday. How much money you think that'll generate? Where's all these big money fights Lopez ? Fighting non champions on a Thursday? Weak. Matias in that video called Lopez out and said he can fight any time March to June. If Matias is such an easy fight, Lopez shouldn't have an excuse after Feb 8th. We will see.

[MONGOOSE66]

Good to know you don't boxing. If you think a fight at MSG won't sell, then we both know why you box. Teofimo couldn't even sell out the smallest room at MSG, he's fighting on a Thursday and what was his biggest draw? You're acting like Lopez is Canelo/Floyd Jr.

Lopez was a top rank prospect who has no knockouts since 2019. He got exposed by Kambosos and Martin, ducked a rematch with both. Despite being highly promoted, he has flopped and has an Adrien Broner type trajectory.

Now you're rating him as the King because he beat Josh Taylor? The same man who ducked Matias and would rather get beat up for 12 rounds against pillow fist Lopez than fight Matias for 1. Matias finishes Taylor, unlike Teofimo.

Lopez somehow is the man now for beating a duck who lost to Caterall. Caterall, Taylor both ducked an opportunity to fight Matias, as well Hitchins. Ask yourself why? Matias is a killer. Hes in that ring to make you suffer and Lopez doesnt have the punch threshold to go to war. All that scar tissue on his Doug Funny nose, Matias will gut him under 20 punches landed. Lopez doesnt have Floyd level boxing. Hes hittable and leaves himself open for counter shots, with his low work volume. Matias will delete Lopez from this planet, it won't be close. I gurantee I will bump this thread after the fight and remind you how new you are to boxing. Lopez has never faced anyone like Matias and if Lopez is man enough, what's his excuse after Feb 8th?

Lopez retired for 8 months because he was emotional over no one believing he was worth 20 million ( I wonder why ) to fight Jermaine Ortiz on a Thursday. How much money you think that'll generate? Where's all these big money fights Lopez ? Fighting non champions on a Thursday? Weak. Matias in that video called Lopez out and said he can fight any time March to June. If Matias is such an easy fight, Lopez shouldn't have an excuse after Feb 8th. We will see.

Yup, your the reason why I said a lot of people on here dont know boxing. They just have man crushes.

[agueybana]

Yup, your the reason why I said a lot of people on here dont know boxing. They just have man crushes.

sounds like you're talking about yourself.

YDKSAB, maybe you would learn if you stopped lurking on forums and last in a boxing gym without quitting because boy you sure do love excuses. Stay weak and new to the sport.

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[MONGOOSE66]

sounds like you're talking about yourself.

YDKSAB, maybe you would learn if you stopped lurking on forums and last in a boxing gym without quitting because boy you sure do love excuses. Stay weak and new to the sport.

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Just the fact you’re saying, I’m talking about myself, speaks volumes about you. Maybe try a sport that your capable of understanding like “luge”. LOL

[LAchargers373]

1. Matias avenged his rematch. Lopez till this day never rematched Kambosos despite being offered a rematch by Kambosos.


https://www.essentiallysports.com/bo...es-next-fight/


Following his first defeat, his father Teofimo Lopez Sr. sat down for an interview with Radio Rahim. “No rematch, man. My mistake was leaving my son at 135 so long because in this game you gotta knock everybody out. If you don’t knock everybody out, this is what happens. It was a complete robbery, we dictated the fight from the beginning, aggressively, taking all those points.”


2. Not only the Lopez team ducked the Kambosos rematch, they made up this theory that you need to knockout to win? Lopez hasnt had a TKO since 2019 and he couldn't even stop Josh Taylor. Lopez doesn't have dangerous power at 140, and his style ages poorly with age. Lopez gets hits alot and he isn't a great pressure fighter like Matias nor does he possess Matias finishing ability. Lopez throws wide looping shots and it will destroy Lopez when he finds out Matias throws short compact shots that will slip through his guard and crack his big nose open.

3. So we confirmed Lopez is a duck. 95% of your essay was nonsense. You trying to argue and fight when facts were dropped to you shows you're emotional. Relax this is a boxing forum, I'm not your therapist.

4. Someone doesnt watch boxing lol
That Anayan fight was the fight right after Matias killed Dadashev. Matias was messed up and understandably. But you didn't know Matias rematched that Armenian and stopped him in brutal fashion.

Taylor is scared shytless of Matias that's a fact. After unheralded mandatory Catterall trounced Josh Taylor but Taylor got a disgusting gift decision to keep his belts anyways, he's dropped 3 of them to avoid more mandatories, which really makes him look like he's afraid of being further exposed. Really makes one question how he ever found himself on the pound for pound list at all.

5. "Go take a history clown"

what does that even mean?
next time you post to me really think about what you're saying.

Take a history lesson means go look at history u dumb f&@k lmao. Ur brain is obviously very little lol. Matias ain’t fought ANYBODY worth their weight. History is littered with fighters just like him. Literally has t fought one elite fighter in his life and has lost to a bum recently despite all ur little excuses. As I said YDKSAB. If you knew boxing history u would wait until Matias beats somebody with a pulse before claiming he would destroy elite fighters that have deep resumes. But I’ll let continue dossing. Will be funnier in the end lol