Comments Thread For: Anthony Joshua vs. Francis Ngannou - Done Deal, On Date TBD In Riyadh

[Rockybigblower]

You have nothing to say, because on some level? You instinctual understand what I am saying is right 'Everyone does'.

It does not matter how many hardcore Fury fans, or cronies big you up 'This does not alter the facts of nature'.

Because this is not just about Anthony Joshua, lets not make that mistake 'This is beyond Anthony Joshua'.

I may mention Anthony Joshua in my post regarding this topic, regarding this battle between the Top-4 Heavyweights 'To see who will be the last man standing from this era'.

Anthony Joshua is a participant in this battle, and all I am doing is? Telling people what position he is in 'And certain people, are trying their best to deny facts of competition, the battle and nature itself'.

A battle is a collection of fights, battles don't just conclude after 1 fight 'The conclusion is not reach after a loss'.

The conclusion is ONLY reached after a defeat 'A defeat is not the same as a loss. A defeat is THE ACTUAL conclusion to a battle. A loss is a consequence of, a fight, a challenge, or a bi-product of life itself'.

Rockybigblower, we are here? We are living on planet earth 'It just so happens that we are both here, at this time. YOU have lost before in your life, we have all lost something before in our lives, but does life just stop and conclude right there? NO, somehow we deal with the consequences and we fight on 'The battle continues'.

The reason we watch sport, the reason why people have a fixation on sport 'Is because it reminds us, of that part of nature'.

In today's sophisticated and modernized society? We are all partially removed from nature 'We are partially all protected from nature'.

This leads some people to believe, that the rules of nature and competition have been altered 'Or that they no longer apply'.

But the truth and reality of life is? Nature has not altered, it is 2024 '2000 years ago, the rules of nature and competition were the same'.

Note: What certain people are attempting to do currently right now in society as a whole 'And more specifically in boxing'. Is that certain people are taking it upon themselves to personally decide when a battle, has reached its conclusion 'They are so removed from nature and competition, they feel so comfortable and protected. They actually believe, that they solely decide when a battle has reached its conclusion'.

Only the participants involved in a battle and nature itself, know when the battle has reached a conclusion 'That is how all battles reach a conclusion, EVERY single battle in life and the history of the Planet'.

So all you people can try and deny the fact 'That Anthony Joshua is still in this battle between the top-4 fighters. You can all try and kid yourselves, because you are partially removed from nature and raw competition itself. Or so you think, but really YOU are not'.

The competition between the top-4 fighters, to see who will be the last man standing from this era is still in progress 'It has not reached its organic conclusion' etc.

Why dont you just acknowledge Anthony Joshuas 2 losses to Usyk and we'll move on.

[pollywog]

You have nothing to say, because on some level? You instinctual understand what I am saying is right 'Everyone does'.

It does not matter how many hardcore Fury fans, or cronies big you up 'This does not alter the facts of nature'.

Because this is not just about Anthony Joshua, lets not make that mistake 'This is beyond Anthony Joshua'.

I may mention Anthony Joshua in my post regarding this topic, regarding this battle between the Top-4 Heavyweights 'To see who will be the last man standing from this era'.

Anthony Joshua is a participant in this battle, and all I am doing is? Telling people what position he is in 'And certain people, are trying their best to deny facts of competition, the battle and nature itself'.

A battle is a collection of fights, battles don't just conclude after 1 fight 'The conclusion is not reach after a loss'.

The conclusion is ONLY reached after a defeat 'A defeat is not the same as a loss. A defeat is THE ACTUAL conclusion to a battle. A loss is a consequence of, a fight, a challenge, or a bi-product of life itself'.

Rockybigblower, we are here? We are living on planet earth 'It just so happens that we are both here, at this time. YOU have lost before in your life, we have all lost something before in our lives, but does life just stop and conclude right there? NO, somehow we deal with the consequences and we fight on 'The battle continues'.

The reason we watch sport, the reason why people have a fixation on sport 'Is because it reminds us, of that part of nature'.

In today's sophisticated and modernized society? We are all partially removed from nature 'We are partially all protected from nature'.

This leads some people to believe, that the rules of nature and competition have been altered 'Or that they no longer apply'.

But the truth and reality of life is? Nature has not altered, it is 2024 '2000 years ago, the rules of nature and competition were the same'.

Note: What certain people are attempting to do currently right now in society as a whole 'And more specifically in boxing'. Is that certain people are taking it upon themselves to personally decide when a battle, has reached its conclusion 'They are so removed from nature and competition, they feel so comfortable and protected. They actually believe, that they solely decide when a battle has reached its conclusion'.

Only the participants involved in a battle and nature itself, know when the battle has reached a conclusion 'That is how all battles reach a conclusion, EVERY single battle in life and the history of the Planet'.

So all you people can try and deny the fact 'That Anthony Joshua is still in this battle between the top-4 fighters. You can all try and kid yourselves, because you are partially removed from nature and raw competition itself. Or so you think, but really YOU are not'.

The competition between the top-4 fighters, to see who will be the last man standing from this era is still in progress 'It has not reached its organic conclusion' etc

TL;DR

Sounds like a post Ayahuasca Wilder revelation...

[greeneye99]

You really think he's gonna stand and trade shots ? Nope...he gonna be backpedaling to stay as far away as possible.

From what I remember of the Fury bout Ngannou was pretty good at cutting the ring off though.

Hey
I won't assume or predict the fight style AJ will utilize in the Ngannou event
Every Fight is different..,.
We'll just have to watch it

[pollywog]

Hey
I won't assume or predict the fight style AJ will utilize in the Ngannou event
Every Fight is different..,.
We'll just have to watch it

That's half the fun. The other half is watching.

Do you think Ngannou is going to try and out box AJ ?

[james240]

Joshua ego, he will absolutely trade shots with Ngannou.

You really think Joshua is going to be on the back foot against a non boxer with 1 fight under his record.

You people are insane

[pollywog]

You really think Joshua is going to be on the back foot against a non boxer with 1 fight under his record.

Yep...once he feels that Ngannou powaaa he gonna run!

[Boro]

TL;DR

Sounds like a post Ayahuasca Wilder revelation...

He's just attempting to be philosophical like the guy he slurps AJ attempts to be, though he seems to of knocked that on the head a bit lately.

What the man fan is ultimately trying to imply is AJ will be the last man standing when all is said and done.

But being overly verbose and philosophical because he thinks he's superior to other people.

But reality will say Joshua's crowning achievement is beating Parker (The only reigning and defending champion he beat) who wasn't even his physical prime yet and with the aid of a dodgy ref who stopped a fighter who was at reach disadvantage from getting on the inside and working...

So far Joshua has been in 3 hard fights and every time he's come up short, that's not a champion that's an on top fighter, similar in fact to Mike Tyson, someone who quickly capitulates when the going gets tough PRINCEKOOL ...

[PRINCEKOOL]

Boro pollywog

I would not state that, I am certain that Joshua will be the last man standing but? Over 1 year ago, when this competition at Heavyweight Developed into this sort of competitive dynamic 'I immediately, on these forums began to highlight? That this type of competition is going to potentially move the battle back towards Usyk & Joshua'.

At the time? People could not inversion this type of future 'Because as you know mate, many people seem to LIVE and analysed things in the moment. And mainly from the vantage point of the moment. When people operate and analyse things in this fashion, they will really struggle to deviate from the status quo'.

I continually kept on stating that, Fury had made a tactical mistake in not already fighting both 'Uysk and Joshua'. And Fury if he really wanted to, could of already of fought both of those two fighters, I have already in extreme detail been through this subject before on this very thread'.

And look what has happened since late 2022 'Look how the landscape and perception of the competition, between the top-4 fighters has altered'.

People are trying to deny it, they are trying to pass over 'The tectonic shifts in the game'. People are still trying to promote certain narratives, because THEY don't want to accept or move away from the status quo or what they believed was for certain.

Boro the Heavyweight Division is in a state of uncertainty, nobody really knows who will be the last man standing 'But people are now aware that on a fight by fight basis, tectonic shifts are occurring.

And the process is accelerating, to the point where as a reaction? Certain people specifically hardcore Fury fans are starting to create new narratives 'There is a beginning of a narrative where Fury's hardcore fans, NOW no longer want Fury to fight Anthony Joshua'. Don't be surprised if that narrative gains traction within certain areas of the boxing community.

I personally theorized that this was going to happen, late 2022 'And then in detail come early 2023'.

I told people, that in this sort of competition 'Which puts emphasis on a fighters long game. Joshua is not just going to disappear, he is going to obsessed about somehow and someway trying to become the Heavyweight Champion of the World again. We can all be close to certain that Joshua is going to try his up most best to make that happen, we will all see some sort of push and serious effort'.

Note: Certain people are now becoming aware of this dynamic, and as a result they want to DECIDE quickly the conclusion of this era. But they will not decide when the era has concluded they do not have that type of authority 'The nature of competition and a battle will decide when the organic conclusion has been reached'.

Tyson Fury is a extremely intelligent man, in terms of reading a fight 'And the landscape of boxing'. On some level, I have sense for sometime now? That Fury understands that he has made a tactical mistake in this battle.

There is one man out there in boxing, who I believe understands this? But he is not saying much on the topic 'And that man's name is Peter Fury'.

This does not guarantee that Fury won't be the last man standing in this battle 'But I just think he has made things more difficult for himself'.

Fury could of already had this era dominated, by mid 2023 'Fury could of already of fought Joshua in late 2022, and then Usyk in Spring 2023'. Fury sabotaged those fights, because he was not game as he would of liked people to believe'.

I just think if somebody like Peter Fury was heavily involved in Fury's training camps 'He would of foresaw the potential future'. And in his own way told Fury to stop his antics and just fight those guys straight up 'Lets fight Joshua and Usyk hard, make it so they cannot get out of the fight. Fury could of done this, but he chose not to' etc.

[kafkod]

He's just attempting to be philosophical like the guy he slurps AJ attempts to be, though he seems to of knocked that on the head a bit lately.

What the man fan is ultimately trying to imply is AJ will be the last man standing when all is said and done.

But being overly verbose and philosophical because he thinks he's superior to other people.

But reality will say Joshua's crowning achievement is beating Parker (The only reigning and defending champion he beat) who wasn't even his physical prime yet and with the aid of a dodgy ref who stopped a fighter who was at reach disadvantage from getting on the inside and working...

So far Joshua has been in 3 hard fights and every time he's come up short, that's not a champion that's an on top fighter, similar in fact to Mike Tyson, someone who quickly capitulates when the going gets tough PRINCEKOOL ...

AJ has beaten 3 reigning and defending champions: Martin, Parker and Ruiz.

As for the ref stopping Parker from fighting on the inside against AJ - fighting on the inside is not Parker's thing!

Imo, AJ is actually more dangerous close up than Parker. Yes, the ref was way to fussy, which made for a poor fight, with unnecessary breaks and restarts. But you could just as easily say that stopping them fighting on the inside benefited Parker, not AJ.

[Boro]

AJ has beaten 3 reigning and defending champions: Martin, Parker and Ruiz.

As for the ref stopping Parker from fighting on the inside against AJ - fighting on the inside is not Parker's thing!

Imo, AJ is actually more dangerous close up than Parker. Yes, the ref was way to fussy, which made for a poor fight, with unnecessary breaks and restarts. But you could just as easily say that stopping them fighting on the inside benefited Parker, not AJ.

Who did they defend against like, Martin hadn't defended once, neither did Ruiz, Joshua was their respective first defence "reigning" implies a "reign" a reign implies you've proven your authority, you've certainly not done that by not defending your title(s).

And certainly not in the case of Martin who won his of Glazkov blowing his knee and retiring and of course Ruiz didn't prove his either did he!? it was proven to be a fluke...

You could argue it benefitted Parker but you could just as easily argue it benefitted Joshua more, it's not as if Ruiz didn't put him down with inside fighting.

And Parker has some decent ability inside and he's been dropping and putting people away with uppercuts and with his short arms it's pretty much a given it's from the inside.