Comments Thread For: Ronnie Shields Believes David Morrell Is Ready For Canelo Too: "When Is He Gonna Get His Opportunity?"

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Rohan is ranked #15 on boxrec, which is higher than anyone David M has fought thus far. I won't pretend to know a whole lot about him tho, but the only guy he's lost to in 12yrs is Zack Parker who was probably close to being an indie top ten guy til he sh^t the bed vs Ryder. There's levels to this sport from rookie guys all the way to #1 & right now however talented anyone thinks Morrell is or isn't he's stuck on fighting these top 30-top 50 boxrec guys for 2yrs & I think he easily should be fighting better guys. I don't even know what we are debating here. Morrell should be fighting guys ranked as high as Rohan is all ik. Morrell fighting any guy below is a step up for him. I'm sure SOMEONE is down.

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These ranks are crap, I see William Scull as 22 and rohan 15? I bet you anything that this Rohan would not go 3 rounds with Morell jr. Look at Parker resume, the first time he stepped up, with no other than ryder, the same ryder that ran away from two years ago, and he lost, and rohan lost to this guy. Like you said, there's levels to the sport. I think we're not debating, we exchanging opinions because I agreed with most of what you have wrote, what I'm trying to show you is that Morrell Jr is has only 10 fights and he's already looking at the top guy in benavidez, the same benavidez that called him a b1tch a year ago, and now is going silent. If they fight and the Cuban win, all these opinions would be forgotten. Let's give him a little bit more time.

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These ranks are crap, I see William Scull as 22 and rohan 15? I bet you anything that this Rohan would not go 3 rounds with Morell jr. Look at Parker resume, the first time he stepped up, with no other than ryder, the same ryder that ran away from two years ago, and he lost, and rohan lost to this guy. Like you said, there's levels to the sport. I think we're not debating, we exchanging opinions because I agreed with most of what you have wrote, what I'm trying to show you is that Morrell Jr is has only 10 fights and he's already looking at the top guy in benavidez, the same benavidez that called him a b1tch a year ago, and now is going silent. If they fight and the Cuban win, all these opinions would be forgotten. Let's give him a little bit more time.

Again look at who Morrell IS fighting tho. You keep tearing down everyone else, but Morrell is supposed to be The Guy & he's fighting these lesser guys still. He's not even fighting these guys we both agree he'd beat. Why? Everyone ain't running from homie. Everyone ain't never running, this is a business. Guys aren't scared to lose they are scared about not getting paid or the opportunity to get into a better position in life. I gtd you half the guys on that list, sh^t probably more, believe they would beat Morrell. So as long as they get a reasonable offer the fight happens.

And look I don't doubt money is part of the problem cuz Morrell isn't a big draw but the fact Morrell's team isn't moving him up already is the other part with the guys who would fight him.

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Again look at who Morrell IS fighting tho. You keep tearing down everyone else, but Morrell is supposed to be The Guy & he's fighting these lesser guys still. He's not even fighting these guys we both agree he'd beat. Why? Everyone ain't running from homie. Everyone ain't never running, this is a business. Guys aren't scared to lose they are scared about not getting paid or the opportunity to get into a better position in life. I gtd you half the guys on that list, sh^t probably more, believe they would beat Morrell. So as long as they get a reasonable offer the fight happens.

And look I don't doubt money is part of the problem cuz Morrell isn't a big draw but the fact Morrell's team isn't moving him up already is the other part with the guys who would fight him.

And I said why not benavidez is the offer is right? I don't see canelo fighting him, so who else? By the way, he's fighting the same crap mbilli, shiskin and the others SMW are fighting, different names same $h1t, the only difference Morrell Jr has only 10 fights while the other are 25+ fights and were fighting cannon fodder throughout their 11 and 12 fights while DMJ started fighting the same competition that those are fighting now, from his second fight on, and you have been dismissive while praising mbilli and shiskin, because boxrec has a ****ty way to rank boxers, what made them better than the WBA, which is crap too?

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And I said why not benavidez is the offer is right? I don't see canelo fighting him, so who else? By the way, he's fighting the same crap mbilli, shiskin and the others SMW are fighting, different names same $h1t, the only difference Morrell Jr has only 10 fights while the other are 25+ fights.

We've talked about this. Mbilli beat a top 5 guy. Morrell hasn't. They have not fought the same level of opps. Idk why you fanboying dude so much. He's a bad mfer, but he's not fighting guys a bad mfer should be fighting. Thats weird at the level he's at. He's probably got one of the most trash resumes for a top 5 guy in boxing. Again for 10 fights its great, but for a top 5 guy its trash.

As for David B the fight doesn't really make sense for David B. Hell the fight doesn't make sense for David M. You don't fight a guy fighting Shobox level guys when you are a guy who's last two fights have been on PPV. When you fighting Shobox level guys you don't jump up to the #2 guy in the division. Fight doesn't even make sense til David M is a full belt holder, David B is a full belt holder again or David M starts doing 1M or bigger gates on the reg. And David B is after Alvarez & at this point has earned that fight. David M hasn't earned any big fight yet.

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We've talked about this. Mbilli beat a top 5 guy. Morrell hasn't. They have not fought the same level of opps. Idk why you fanboying dude so much. He's a bad mfer, but he's not fighting guys a bad mfer should be fighting. Thats weird at the level he's at. He's probably got one of the most trash resumes for a top 5 guy in boxing. Again for 10 fights its great, but for a top 5 guy its trash.

As for David B the fight doesn't really make sense for David B. Hell the fight doesn't make sense for David M. You don't fight a guy fighting Shobox level guys when you are a guy who's last two fights have been on PPV. When you fighting Shobox level guys you don't jump up to the #2 guy in the division. Fight doesn't even make sense til David M is a full belt holder, David B is a full belt holder again or David M starts doing 1M or bigger gates on the reg. And David B is after Alvarez & at this point has earned that fight. David M hasn't earned any big fight yet.

Pandas, we talked about this yes, DMJ has fought against not one but two ranked guys in the WBA. Please don't mention ranks anymore, they're bs because anyone wirh some push can and will buy a spot, you're the fanboy defending mbilli trash, actually double plus five trash resume, because if you're critiquing Morrell Jr resume while praising mbilli's, then what? Now you're talking about deserving, did ryder deserved a fight with canelo? I know what you are going to reply, I just want to read it. I'm a full supporter of benavidez getting his shot, find one post where I don't say he shouldn't get the ginger fight, yes I'm a Morrell Jr fan but benavidez is ahead of him in the pecking order, and I'm only want him to fight the Cuban if ginger doesn't fight him or after. Is that wrong, or he's going to wait on the sidelines or choosing no hopers? Common man what do you care if DMJ fights a bum or not? Don't you want to see benavidez fight a young in his prime fighter, or do you want to see him fight direll? I mentioned direll because you think he has a great value. He should be fighting canelo, but the real mexican is not so real, so who is his going to fight if canelo chooses another helpless victim?

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Pandas, we talked about this yes, DMJ has fought against not one but two ranked guys in the WBA. Please don't mention ranks anymore, they're bs because anyone wirh some push can and will buy a spot, you're the fanboy defending mbilli trash, actually double plus five trash resume, because if you're critiquing Morrell Jr resume while praising mbilli's, then what? Now you're talking about deserving, did ryder deserved a fight with canelo? I know what you are going to reply, I just want to read it. I'm a full supporter of benavidez getting his shot, find one post where I don't say he shouldn't get the ginger fight, yes I'm a Morrell Jr fan but benavidez is ahead of him in the pecking order, and I'm only want him to fight the Cuban if ginger doesn't fight him or after. Is that wrong, or he's going to wait on the sidelines or choosing no hopers? Common man what do you care if DMJ fights a bum or not? Don't you want to see benavidez fight a young in his prime fighter, or do you want to see him fight direll? I mentioned direll because you think he has a great value. He should be fighting canelo, but the real mexican is not so real, so who is his going to fight if canelo chooses another helpless victim?

You don't buy indie ranking. You can buy WBA & other belt rankings. I'm not talking about WBA & other belt rankings. You are. I'm talking about indie rankings, usually TBRB. I believe them to be the most accurate & least biased. Ring would be #2 but they, imo, seem to favor certain guys more & being owned by ODLH isn't a good look. I also mention Boxrec rankings cuz they are also unbiased & favor strength of schedule over the eye test, but obviously any algo rankings not going by the eye test is gonna be less than perfect. That said they are still the best rankings for non-top ten guys so I feel they matter for that reason. If you just wanna act like everyone is equal & a W is a W, fair play, but I'd strongly disagree with that take. There's levels & Morrell is one of the best guys in boxing right now fighting beneath his level.

Fanboying Mbilli lmfao. Wtf. I'm saying Mbilli has got the best W. He has got the best W to anyone paying attention. But I've also said I think Morrell is better & I'd favor Morrell if they fought. Thats not sh^t a fanboy of a guy would say. You are going luny tunes here trying to invent sh^t I'm not suggesting.

Ryder has paid more dues than Morrell has. But the real difference is Ryder got chosen to fight Alvarez more than he deserved to fight Alvarez. Morrell doesn't deserve a fight with Alvarez either, but he could get chosen too. David B has earned the right to fight the #1 guy at 168 tho.

I wanna see him fight better guys. Why wouldn't you want to see him fight better guys that make sense??? Thats what I don't even get. Like there are a dozen or more guys above the guys Morrell has beaten & the guys he keeps talking about. I wanna see him move up in class. Why don't you? Why is it Sena level guys or David B/Alvarez?!?!? Sh^t don't make no sense.

I think Dirrell is a mid level name & ex belt holder (like other guys who've held or fought for a belt that I've mentioned, its not just Dirrell I've brought up). There's value in fighting those types. There's value in KO2ing guys ppl know about & have done sh^t in boxing. There's lil to no valuing in KO2ing guys ppl don't know & haven't done sh^t. This isn't a complicated idea I'm saying here idk why you act like beating this guy is the same as beating that guy. There's different value in beating different guys. There's more value in beating guys ppl know &/or have done sh^t they know about.

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You don't buy indie ranking. You can buy WBA & other belt rankings. I'm not talking about WBA & other belt rankings. You are. I'm talking about indie rankings, usually TBRB. I believe them to be the most accurate & least biased. Ring would be #2 but they, imo, seem to favor certain guys more & being owned by ODLH isn't a good look. I also mention Boxrec rankings cuz they are also unbiased & favor strength of schedule over the eye test, but obviously any algo rankings not going by the eye test is gonna be less than perfect. That said they are still the best rankings for non-top ten guys so I feel they matter for that reason. If you just wanna act like everyone is equal & a W is a W, fair play, but I'd strongly disagree with that take. There's levels & Morrell is one of the best guys in boxing right now fighting beneath his level.

Fanboying Mbilli lmfao. Wtf. I'm saying Mbilli has got the best W. He has got the best W to anyone paying attention. But I've also said I think Morrell is better & I'd favor Morrell if they fought. Thats not sh^t a fanboy of a guy would say. You are going luny tunes here trying to invent sh^t I'm not suggesting.

Ryder has paid more dues than Morrell has. But the real difference is Ryder got chosen to fight Alvarez more than he deserved to fight Alvarez. Morrell doesn't deserve a fight with Alvarez either, but he could get chosen too. David B has earned the right to fight the #1 guy at 168 tho.

I wanna see him fight better guys. Why wouldn't you want to see him fight better guys that make sense??? Thats what I don't even get. Like there are a dozen or more guys above the guys Morrell has beaten & the guys he keeps talking about. I wanna see him move up in class. Why don't you? Why is it Sena level guys or David B/Alvarez?!?!? Sh^t don't make no sense.

I think Dirrell is a mid level name & ex belt holder (like other guys who've held or fought for a belt that I've mentioned, its not just Dirrell I've brought up). There's value in fighting those types. There's value in KO2ing guys ppl know about & have done sh^t in boxing. There's lil to no valuing in KO2ing guys ppl don't know & haven't done sh^t. This isn't a complicated idea I'm saying here idk why you act like beating this guy is the same as beating that guy. There's different value in beating different guys. There's more value in beating guys ppl know &/or have done sh^t they know about.

Imo, out all those names you have mentioned , gongora is the one that you think is the bettet W, then again his resume is full of $h1t so what are we talking about? You critiquing one's resume and they all crap if you look into it, and you don't have to nick pick, the only way to separate yourself from the pack is by fighting and beating the one higher than you, he's trying to do that and I don't see anyone else asking for it, a least plant went for it, he didn't wait for another shot while beating no hopers, he fought a mid level and old direll and then benavidez. Now we have to wait and see who's stepping to the plate.

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Imo, out all those names you have mentioned , gongora is the one that you think is the bettet W, then again his resume is full of $h1t so what are we talking about? You critiquing one's resume and they all crap if you look into it, and you don't have to nick pick, the only way to separate yourself from the pack is by fighting and beating the one higher than you, he's trying to do that and I don't see anyone else asking for it, a least plant went for it, he didn't wait for another shot while beating no hopers, he fought a mid level and old direll and then benavidez. Now we have to wait and see who's stepping to the plate.

Like I've said a million times there still levels to "sh^t" as you call it. And Morrell is one of the highest indie ranked guys in boxing with the lowest level of "sh^t" wins.

I agree thats how you separate yourself & thats why to most David M LOOKS like he should be where he's at, but guys like David B & even Mbilli have PROVEN they deserve to be where they are by beating other top shelf guys. David M needs to separate himself from the pack like David B & Mbilli have done.

And David M has beaten low level guys & no one anyone knows outside of their families. Like I keep saying I'm not suggesting anything crazy. I'm saying fight a top 10, 15, 20, 25 type guy or a guy ppl have fooking heard of. These fights vs random mfers who aren't even in the top 30 in the world ain't gonna get a guy with David M's talent any fooking where & thats where he's gonna stay the way his team is moving him. I think even if he keeps fighting bs guys he'll get a big fight in 2025, but the way he's going he's not gonna be on anyone with a names short list anytime soon.

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Canelo sitting one a School chair while they tray to explain it to him:

"No Nelito no, we cannot age these MF's out, they are younger than you"