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  • #11
    Currently? Has that ***** fought since 2019?

    Seriously though I think I agree with letter classing more than numbered ranking because even though Andy beat Arreola and Ortiz I feel like those fights really prove Andy, Chris, and Luis, are all basically all the same fat sleepy hispanic with fast hands and good counters.

    That said, I feel like Wilder's ****ed around enough to also be considered abouts even, even though he beat Ortiz.

    B's probably fair provided we're calling the champions S and top contenders A.



    In a word: mid.

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    • #12
      Only time i thought he might be good is before the first Wilder fight, and i do mean BEFORE. Once he lost the first fight, it was an uphill battle for me to rate him at all.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Ry92 View Post
        I rate him as an avoided Dillon Whyte level fighter. The fact he is wilder best win shows how hype job wilder was
        Ortiz was always the most likely candidate for Wilders best win when it was all over .

        In a comedic way Wilders own career outlook was dependent on Ortiz himself which didn’t work out at all because he never really did anything at all as a pro boxer but give some entertaining fights ,particularly with Martin who everyone considered a bum but ONLY if Joshua was fighting him .

        Maybe Wilder gets a bigger win bf he calls it a day but I don’t see it not if he’s actually fighting the real guys . I think Wilder needs 2 fights with guys outside the top 15 and against non punchers so it looks bleak his resume is just looking really terrible then it already was ,he’s definitely a candidate for worst resume in decades for a former champion at heavy,he literally took beatings from Fury then Jumped to his sparring partner for a round and got embarrassed by Parker , Dr.Sleep better wake up bc he takes another loss next his whatever run is over .
        Last edited by juggernaut666; 01-03-2024, 11:57 AM.

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        • #14
          I rate him higher than Parker

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Mammoth View Post
            I rate him higher than Parker
            Really? WHy is that please?

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Mammoth View Post
              I rate him higher than Parker
              LOl, how, why? What has Ortiz done to be ranked higher? Parker was WBo world titlist.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Mammoth View Post
                I rate him higher than Parker
                6 years ago. I would have too.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by pollywog View Post
                  So highly that A-side Joshy ducked him when both were signed to matchroom...

                  https://www.matchroomboxing.com/news...ith-matchroom/

                  ...and Wilder didnât.
                  yeah except that didnt happen. check the timelines. they were both with matchroom for about 6 months...and during that time joshua was already planning to fight klitschko.

                  OCTOBER 8 2016​ LUIS ORTIZ TEAMS UP WITH MATCHROOM

                  Oct 16, 2016 Eddie Hearn insists a deal has virtuallyâ been agreed for Anthony Joshua to fight Wladimir Klitschko

                  29 April 2017 Anthony Joshua vs Wladimir Klitschko

                  29 March 2017, Ortiz signed a deal with American boxing adviser Al Haymon. His first bout was believed to take place on 22 April 2017.

                  ortiz went with pbc and was matched soft until he was fed to wilder. also joshua offered him 7 million dollars in 2019 and he turned it down.

                  May 2, 2019 Hearn Says Luiz Ortiz Turned Down A $7 Million Offer To ...


                  this is one of those things people simply made up based on nothing. where was the duck? if anyone ducked it was ortiz. he literally left joshuas promotion, then he literally turned down huge money. doesnt make sense
                  Last edited by daggum; 01-03-2024, 03:52 PM.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post

                    LOl, how, why? What has Ortiz done to be ranked higher? Parker was WBo world titlist.
                    parker beat wilder and ruiz. 2 guys that beat ortiz. ortiz beat jennings and charles martin though. good job there.
                    Last edited by daggum; 01-03-2024, 03:56 PM.

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                    • #20
                      A fringe level fighter at his peak. Not as good as Chisora, but slightly better than a Molina.

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