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Crawford is great but Inoue too. Spence didn't fight like a P4P for whatever reason. Put them both at #1. There are others like Bam Rodriguez who has beaten 2 champs already.
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Bud is great for boxing, but Inoue is my P4PComment
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Tarver sounds like a dumbass. The lower weights are more skilled and it's always been that way. No wonder he got fired as an analyst.Comment
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Tarver over 4 years ago: "Inoue is #1 P4P talent wse. He's knocking out all these top notch fighters."
Tarver now: "He didn't beat anybody."Last edited by Pocket Dogs!; 12-30-2023, 03:55 PM.Comment
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Classless and ignorant comments from Tarver, though that's hardly atypical for him. You don't always have to put someone down in order to prop someone else up.
Lots of quality fighters. Just because you don't follow the lighter weight-classes and don't know their names, that doesn't make them bums. If anything it just makes you ignorant. The reason you don't know them is because there are barely any US boxers competing in those weight-classes, thus they are not featured prominently on American television. Though if you care to look outside that bubble you'll find there is a whole world of boxing (and other things) outside of America. Don't equate exposure with talent. If Crawford and Spence were Japanese or Thai 115-pounders you wouldn't know their names either.Originally posted by Tarver
Exactly what I said above. All of Inoue's fights are out there. He became WBC champion in his sixth fight, won the WBSS, unified world titles, became undisputed (twice), going from one major accolade to the next. He's not some obscure boxer from Peru with a 50-0 (50KO) record all against nobodies in school gymnasiums.Originally posted by Tarver
What is a 'P4P champion'? A titlist who also happens to be on the opinion-based P4P list? Okay, how many has Crawford beaten? One? Here's the thing: I don't know that Spence was on many P4P lists 4-5 years ago when this fight should have actually happened. Crawford and Spence were both reigning welterweight titlists in 2018. But by delaying and marinating the fight and having both men knock off lesser competition (and look impressive doing it) in the meantime, it eventually became a match-up of 'P4P stars'.Originally posted by Tarver
Perhaps if Fulton and Inoue had avoided each other for five years and cleaned out the rest of the division, their fight would have come to be looked upon in the same way. Instead, Inoue moved up and fought him in his first fight at the weight-class, then immediately fought the next best guy and became undisputed one fight later. Maybe Japanese promoters need to learn how to marinate fights.
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I'm not a Crawford hater, btw. His performance against Spence was masterful, probably one of the best I've ever seen. But Inoue is great too, and he's more active. This notion of tearing someone down just to prop someone else up reeks of insecurity and is never a good look imo.Comment
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When pac best barrera who was pfp no1 or 2 and a ATG in his prime, did pac become no1 pfp above floyd?
Even Spence was downplaying buds achievements before they fought. So how come all of a sudden this elevating of buds resume with just 1 win this year? Nobody inoue fights will not be impressed by inoue and be belittling his achievements in comparison to their own!Last edited by hugh grant; 12-30-2023, 04:25 PM.Comment
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I agree with Tarver here. He has a point and what makes matters even worse for Inoue; Is that he fights halfway across the globe in relatively obscurity. Hardly anyone knows him or has even so much as heard of him outside of boxing fans.
The fighters he has defeated has mostly been paper champions. No one has ever heard of them before outside of Nonito Donaire who is now approaching 60 years old.Comment
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