Comments Thread For: Inoue: One Day, I Will Be Able To Look Back With Pride Over All That I Will Have Accomplished

[_Rexy_]

Don't get me wrong. Inoue is an all around skilled fighter. I love his fights.

Those stats, IMO, say far more about how hard Inoue hits than his defensive prowess. He has a decent defense. But his main defense is his offense. When he hits guys they back up, stop throwing and just want to get away. His power is his main defense.

Put ten WW's in a gym, each with 20% ko ratio. Let them all fight each other for a few rounds. You will get a bunch of boring bouts. Now bring in a guy with a 90% KO ratio who hits alot harder. He stops three guys in a row. See the difference? Now bring in 10 WW's who all have decent KO percentages, and a few with big KO power. The fights become alot more entertaining and interesting.

That is why Inoue is not as impressive to many as Crawford is. I myself don't hold Inoue accountable for the weights though, he is impressive and has obviously worked on his power relentlessly. But if you put Inoue in with other guys who also have that type of power, it changes things.

Okay, but Donaire, Dasmarines ,Moloney and Rodriguez all had KO% in the 70's when they fought Inoue. Not in the 20's. Significantly better KO%'s than guys like David A, Porter, Khan, Benavidez, Horn.....But I get it, they bigger so it's different I guess. Hell, once Spence won his first title the only KO's he had were Lamont Peterson and Ugas. But "Big Fish"


Suppose we will just have to wait until Inoue fights someone with GGG's chin, Pernell Whittaker defense, and hits like Beterbeiv.

[Theshotyoudontsee]

Okay, but Donaire, Dasmarines ,Moloney and Rodriguez all had KO% in the 70's when they fought Inoue. Not in the 20's. Significantly better KO%'s than guys like David A, Porter, Khan, Benavidez, Horn.....But I get it, they bigger so it's different I guess. Hell, once Spence won his first title the only KO's he had were Lamont Peterson and Ugas. But "Big Fish"


Suppose we will just have to wait until Inoue fights someone with GGG's chin, Pernell Whittaker defense, and hits like Beterbeiv.

Looking at your sig, and your avatar (possibly) you may have a bias for asian fighters, which is totally fine. I literally have no bias at all about any fighter. I don't care if I like them personally or not, I am a nerdy white dude who just likes good boxing.

I love watching Inoue and am a big fan. I love watching Bud fight as well, big fan. I feel like Bud is slightly ahead of Inoue because of the Spence obliteration. But I think waht Inoue is doing is amazing and fun as heck to watch.

I don't think Crawford fought a bunch of killers either. But I will say that Bud beat alot of top ten fighters and KO'd them. And Spence is a far better win than Inoue has. Inoue doesn't need to fight some mythical fighter with every amazing attribute. But we can all see watching the fighters, he hasn't fought anyone that has seriously been picked to lose to. Bud was picked to lose to Spence by many fighters and fans.

Inoue is an elite talent. No doubt.

[AKAcronym]

Looking at your sig, and your avatar (possibly) you may have a bias for asian fighters, which is totally fine. I literally have no bias at all about any fighter. I don't care if I like them personally or not, I am a nerdy white dude who just likes good boxing.

I love watching Inoue and am a big fan. I love watching Bud fight as well, big fan. I feel like Bud is slightly ahead of Inoue because of the Spence obliteration. But I think waht Inoue is doing is amazing and fun as heck to watch.

I don't think Crawford fought a bunch of killers either. But I will say that Bud beat alot of top ten fighters and KO'd them. And Spence is a far better win than Inoue has. Inoue doesn't need to fight some mythical fighter with every amazing attribute. But we can all see watching the fighters, he hasn't fought anyone that has seriously been picked to lose to. Bud was picked to lose to Spence by many fighters and fans.

Inoue is an elite talent. No doubt.

You can say that about almost every fight, where there's big fanbases for both. Bud was still the favorite, even if it wasn't by the biggest margin.

[_Rexy_]

Looking at your sig, and your avatar (possibly) you may have a bias for asian fighters, which is totally fine. I literally have no bias at all about any fighter. I don't care if I like them personally or not, I am a nerdy white dude who just likes good boxing.

I love watching Inoue and am a big fan. I love watching Bud fight as well, big fan. I feel like Bud is slightly ahead of Inoue because of the Spence obliteration. But I think waht Inoue is doing is amazing and fun as heck to watch.

I don't think Crawford fought a bunch of killers either. But I will say that Bud beat alot of top ten fighters and KO'd them. And Spence is a far better win than Inoue has. Inoue doesn't need to fight some mythical fighter with every amazing attribute. But we can all see watching the fighters, he hasn't fought anyone that has seriously been picked to lose to. Bud was picked to lose to Spence by many fighters and fans.

Inoue is an elite talent. No doubt.

5 out of 10 fighters in my sig are Japanese fighters, The point of my sig was to list prospects outside of America that most fans on here had never heard of. I have 2 Cubans on there too. My avatar is a nod to the fact that I'm a widowed single father since he was 15 months old. I also have lone wolf and cub tattoo'd on my ribs. It serves as a reminder that my son and I walk this path alone, and a pledge to never let anyone or anything come between us. but regardless that doesn't mean what I said was wrong. I'm also a former boxer. Fact is, you said none of his opponents have KO power when they all have had better KO%'s than Bud's opponents. Your response is to say I'm biased. I suppose the numbers are also biased. Shawn Porter had scored 1 knock out since 2015, Indongo, Khan, David A all with KO% in the 50's. Those are facts.

[_Rexy_]

You can say that about almost every fight, where there's big fanbases for both. Bud was still the favorite, even if it wasn't by the biggest margin.

Inoue was picked to be "exposed" but Fulton by a bunch of fighters and fans. Who GAF what "fans" think? They cheer for who they're fans of

[AKAcronym]

Inoue was picked to be "exposed" but Fulton by a bunch of fighters and fans. Who GAF what "fans" think? They cheer for who they're fans of

Yeah I don't understand why that's used as an excuse. So what people picked Spence to win, people picked Bud to win also. It's never unanimous as to who people think will win a fight. It is a first to me to see that Bud has suddenly fought a bunch of guys who have "real power,' even though like you showed, a lot of guys he fought were hardly known as punchers. But since they're bigger guys, only their power mattered. I don't get people's arguments sometimes.

[crimsonfalcon07]

This thread has nothing to do with Bud, so thanks for being racist and making everything about him. As long as we're there, I'm going to ask the same question I was asking before the Spence fight, since the argument for Bud (and don't get me wrong, I've thought he was a generational talent the whole time, and picked him to beat Spence) depends entirely on Spence being P4P.

So.

Spence fans, sound off. Why is Spence a P4P guy at all? His accomplishments came in one division, and he's only got wins against 3 active champions in one division, and one of those was a split decision. His other big wins came against smaller guys who were former champions at lower weight divisions. People here can and do criticize everyone else for bringing up smaller champs (and I'll note Inoue has been fighting only bigger guys as he moves up his whole career). So why does Spence get a pass. Spence only defended his IBF belt one time in 4 years. Other fighters get ridiculed for that. Why not Spence? So why is he some amazing P4P talent that's such a good win? He sure didn't look good on the night. I credit Bud for that, and don't think it was because Spence was drained and having a bad night, but if he was, then that's not really a point in Bud's favor. We need to see Spence in action again to have a better idea. But I have never understood why Spence was ranked so highly other than that Western pundits overvalue the welterweight division because of nostalgia for past fighters, and undervalue the lighter divisions.

On topic, Inoue has plenty already to be proud of. He's an easy first ballot HOF with a strong argument for being an ATG.

[Theshotyoudontsee]

5 out of 10 fighters in my sig are Japanese fighters, The point of my sig was to list prospects outside of America that most fans on here had never heard of. I have 2 Cubans on there too. My avatar is a nod to the fact that I'm a widowed single father since he was 15 months old. I also have lone wolf and cub tattoo'd on my ribs. It serves as a reminder that my son and I walk this path alone, and a pledge to never let anyone or anything come between us. but regardless that doesn't mean what I said was wrong. I'm also a former boxer. Fact is, you said none of his opponents have KO power when they all have had better KO%'s than Bud's opponents. Your response is to say I'm biased. I suppose the numbers are also biased. Shawn Porter had scored 1 knock out since 2015, Indongo, Khan, David A all with KO% in the 50's. Those are facts.

Sorry to hear that. My mom died when I was relatively young, glad to to hear you are a such a good father. Wasn't trying to insult, that avatar is cool and looks slightly anime.

I hear you and see what you are saying. If you look at the opponents for both guys, neither faced insanely great comp, that is what I have been saying. If you look at all of the components combined, I'd say overall Crawford fought bigger punchers, but I'm not going to go to box rec for each fighter. Ava for instance KO's six guys straight before the Bud fight, some guys learn to sit on a punch later in their careers.

Inoue is freakishly powerful for the classes he has fought in. I'm a fan of both.

[_Rexy_]

Sorry to hear that. My mom died when I was relatively young, glad to to hear you are a such a good father. Wasn't trying to insult, that avatar is cool and looks slightly anime.

I hear you and see what you are saying. If you look at the opponents for both guys, neither faced insanely great comp, that is what I have been saying. If you look at all of the components combined, I'd say overall Crawford fought bigger punchers, but I'm not going to go to box rec for each fighter. Ava for instance KO's six guys straight before the Bud fight, some guys learn to sit on a punch later in their careers.

Inoue is freakishly powerful for the classes he has fought in. I'm a fan of both.

Thank you for your kind words.

It's originally a Manga/Comic but was made into 7 live action films. Highly recommend.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lone_Wolf_and_Cub

My first exposure was actually from GZA's Liquid Swords album. Almost every song begins with a sample from the English dub of the movie (Shogun Assassin) It piqued my curiosity to rent the VHS in the 90's, then branch to the original Japanese version/series.

Song opens with what is the beginning of the English dub.


As for Bud/Inoue, I'm actually a huge fan of both guys. Won good money on Bud stoppage. I just always thought Spence was overrated,

[Theshotyoudontsee]

Thank you for your kind words.

It's originally a Manga/Comic but was made into 7 live action films. Highly recommend.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lone_Wolf_and_Cub

My first exposure was actually from GZA's Liquid Swords album. Almost every song begins with a sample from the English dub of the movie (Shogun Assassin) It piqued my curiosity to rent the VHS in the 90's, then branch to the original Japanese version/series.

Song opens with what is the beginning of the English dub.


As for Bud/Inoue, I'm actually a huge fan of both guys. Won good money on Bud stoppage. I just always thought Spence was overrated,

I was huge into anime in the 90's. Had alot of great ones....Akira, Fist of the North Star, Wicked City, Demon City, Crying Freeman, a bunch more. For some reason that era of anime really grabbed me. Love the artwork in all of it.