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  • ShoulderRoll
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    #41
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza

    Yes that is literally your argument His physique. Secondly, you asserted "assuredly" in regards to Ngannou's PED use, that's not a su****ion that's a statement. This isn't the first time I've suggested to you to look up the words you use.

    You are failing to grasp that Ngannou's physique is no more su****ious than Wilder's. Deontay Wilder is a one in a trillion human being if we are going to talk about his capabilities as an athlete. I'd think based on solely su****ion, he'd be one of the leading candidates for someone who is very likely to use PED's.

    That's your problem, you pick and chose what suits you. "Ngannou is assuredly on PED's" why? "Because of his physique at 37 years old." you then say "Wilder is clean" when the man is 38 years old, shredded to death and punches harder than almost anyone that's ever walked the planet. And you think that it's reasonable to assert one is on PED's whilst the other is clean. It's preposterous and it's frankly staggering that it eludes you.

    And that's just Wilder, you went as far as to say CANELO is likely clean, someone who has literally used PED's whilst Ngannou, someone who has never been caught using PED's is "assuredly on PEDs".....Surely I do not need to break down to you why that is an EXTRODINARILY absurd position to take?


    How about you just stop avoiding the question like a coward and justify how you've made the claim that Floyd Mayweather is a clean athlete, whilst at the same time said Francis Ngannou is assuredly on PED's.

    Please, break down and justify how you could possibly hold that opinion.​​
    Right, I said physique. Not aesthetically pleasing physique.

    And I said “almost assuredly” Ngannou is on PEDs. Not an absolute, but an opinion that I am entitled to have as you concede.

    Why don’t you go kick rocks now and stop derailing this thread with your petty agenda?

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      #42
      Originally posted by _Rexy_
      is Jay Deas still ****ing THERE?!?


      He should have fired Jay a decade ago.
      At this point Deas is towel boy. He's been irrelevant for years and is just a pad holder. It was obvious during the buildup to the fight that Wilder has lost him inner drive to dig deep and push himself when the times are tough in fight. This doesn't come back and any more fights will further show this.

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        #43
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

        Right, I said physique. Not aesthetically pleasing physique.
        My God, do I need to explain to you what the word "physique" means?

        If we are talking solely their physiques, and capabilities as an athlete, Deontay Wilder is one of the absolute clear examples of a su****ious athlete. It's really simple.

        A damn sight more than Jarrell Miller, that is for sure.

        And a damn site more than a plethora of known PED users.

        Dillian Whyte, Chris Arreola, Deontay Wilder.

        Which one looks like they most likely used PED's on the surface? I don't think anyone needs that question answering.​

        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
        And I said “almost assuredly” Ngannou is on PEDs. Not an absolute, but an opinion that I am entitled to have as you concede.
        Right, yes I'm aware you baselessly asserted that Ngannou is "almost assuredly on PED's" but you also said Canelo is likely clean at the same time. Do you understand how astonishingly ****** that is? That's what I'm trying to help you understand.


        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
        Why don’t you go kick rocks now and stop derailing this thread with your petty agenda?
        Why do you constantly avoid justifying your claims? Do you not feel pathetic in doing so?


        Why do you refuse justify how you've made the claim that Floyd Mayweather is a clean athlete, whilst at the same time said Francis Ngannou is assuredly on PED's?

        Please, break down and justify how you could possibly hold that opinion.​​​


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          #44
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza

          My God, do I need to explain to you what the word "physique" means?

          If we are talking solely their physiques, and capabilities as an athlete, Deontay Wilder is one of the absolute clear examples of a su****ious athlete. It's really simple.

          A damn sight more than Jarrell Miller, that is for sure.

          And a damn site more than a plethora of known PED users.

          Dillian Whyte, Chris Arreola, Deontay Wilder.

          Which one looks like they most likely used PED's on the surface? I don't think anyone needs that question answering.​



          Right, yes I'm aware you baselessly asserted that Ngannou is "almost assuredly on PED's" but you also said Canelo is likely clean at the same time. Do you understand how astonishingly ****** that is? That's what I'm trying to help you understand.




          Why do you constantly avoid justifying your claims? Do you not feel pathetic in doing so?


          Why do you refuse justify how you've made the claim that Floyd Mayweather is a clean athlete, whilst at the same time said Francis Ngannou is assuredly on PED's?

          Please, break down and justify how you could possibly hold that opinion.​​​


          When did Cristobal fail a PED test?

          I know one of his fights was changed to a NC because he failed a test for marijuana.

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            #45
            Originally posted by low blows


            When did Cristobal fail a PED test?

            I know one of his fights was changed to a NC because he failed a test for marijuana.
            You're right, his failed test was weed which despite banned I wouldn't consider a PED so fair to scratch that one.

            For some reason I thought it was clen he failed for but seems not.

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              #46
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza

              You're right, his failed test was weed which despite banned I wouldn't consider a PED so fair to scratch that one.

              For some reason I thought it was clen he failed for but seems not.

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                #47
                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

                As somebody who works out under the influence of Cannabis about 90% of the time, I actually do think it's a PED. But I don't think it should be a banned substance.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

                  Why is that funny?

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by _Rexy_

                    As somebody who works out under the influence of Cannabis about 90% of the time, I actually do think it's a PED. But I don't think it should be a banned substance.
                    For recovery is where the grey area is with weed, as you could argue it helps enhance recovery as opposed to not using it.

                    But overall I agree with you it shouldn't be a banned PED, in fact I personally would call for it to not be banned at all.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by _Rexy_

                      As somebody who works out under the influence of Cannabis about 90% of the time, I actually do think it's a PED. But I don't think it should be a banned substance.
                      What’s your take on ayahuasca? Performance enhancing or performance ruining?

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