Should Wilder fire Malik Scott and Jay Deas?

[daggum]

Oh ok, so someone's physique is evidence for PED use in boxing now? Oh that's interesting.

Because Dillian Whyte and Jarrel Miller are absolute modern day Adonis's, aren't they?

Wilder has legs like twigs and weighs 220 lbs and is statistically the hardest puncher in the history of Planet Earth. So what exactly is your evidence for Francis Ngannou being "assuredly on PED's" whilst Wilder is clean?

hes not though. can we stop this. he was fed a bunch of tomato cans to knock over. when he fought good fighters his power went away. it was just marketing and hype.

ko ratio against opponents who were in the top 10(ring) at the time of the fight

ali-50% 18 out of 36
louis-75% 24 out of 32
liston-63% 7 out of 11
patterson-35% 7 out of 20
foreman-58% 7 out of 12
holmes-52% 12 out of 23
marciano-80% 8 out of 10
bowe-60% 3 out of 5
lewis-53% 8 out of 15
fury-60% 3 out of 5
vitali klit-75% 6 out of 8
wlad klit-53% 7 out of 13
joshua-50% 5 out of 10
tyson-53% 8 out of 15
holyfield-30% 6 out of 20
wilder-28% 2 out of 7

[ShoulderRoll]

Oh ok, so someone's physique is evidence for PED use in boxing now? Oh that's interesting.

Because Dillian Whyte and Jarrel Miller are absolute modern day Adonis's, aren't they?

Wilder has legs like twigs and weighs 220 lbs and is statistically the hardest puncher in the history of Planet Earth. So what exactly is your evidence for Francis Ngannou being "assuredly on PED's" whilst Wilder is clean?

Just look at Ngannou, Dan.

Over 270 lbs, almost all muscle with very little body fat. At 37 years of age.

[HeadShots]

honestly i could've coached Wilder.

game plan:

keep your right hand ****ed and throw it 5 times a round.


that's the entire training camp

[ShoulderRoll]

That would probably do him a lot of good, but it would never happen.

Ann Wolfe wouldn’t be a “yes person” kissing his ass all the time, that’s for sure.

[Eff Pandas]

That would probably do him a lot of good, but it would never happen.

Ann is overhyped af as a trainer. All I seen her do is torture Kirkland while hitting a heavy bag while jogging in combat boots. She's like the David Goggins of boxing trainers.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Arthur that just fought Bivol would probably also be a world champion if he was a natural hw. This division sucks, lol. Only Usyk looks good.

[IronDanHamza]

Just look at Ngannou, Dan.

Over 270 lbs, almost all muscle with very little body fat. At 37 years of age.

I asked for evidence. "Look at him" isn't evidence.

What evidence do you have that Ngannou is "assuredly on PED's" but Deontay Wilder is clean? I'd say both are as suspcious as each other if we're going to play that game.

You can't just go around saying people are "assuredly" on PED's when it fits your agenda and then say others are "likely clean" when it fits your agenda like you laughably do with Canelo who is a literal drug cheat.

You say Floyd Mayweather is a clean athlete yet Ngannou isn't.

How could you possibly justify that opinion?

In fact, go ahead now and justify it.

[IronDanHamza]

hes not though. can we stop this. he was fed a bunch of tomato cans to knock over. when he fought good fighters his power went away. it was just marketing and hype.

ko ratio against opponents who were in the top 10(ring) at the time of the fight

ali-50% 18 out of 36
louis-75% 24 out of 32
liston-63% 7 out of 11
patterson-35% 7 out of 20
foreman-58% 7 out of 12
holmes-52% 12 out of 23
marciano-80% 8 out of 10
bowe-60% 3 out of 5
lewis-53% 8 out of 15
fury-60% 3 out of 5
vitali klit-75% 6 out of 8
wlad klit-53% 7 out of 13
joshua-50% 5 out of 10
tyson-53% 8 out of 15
holyfield-30% 6 out of 20
wilder-28% 2 out of 7

Well I never said he was statistically the hardest puncher against Top 10 opponents, did I?

It's neither here nor there, I don't care. He's got a 90+% KO ratio weighing 220 lbs with two stick legs so if ever there's an alarm bell for PED use there's one.

[ShoulderRoll]

I asked for evidence. "Look at him" isn't evidence.

What evidence do you have that Ngannou is "assuredly on PED's" but Deontay Wilder is clean? I'd say both are as suspcious as each other if we're going to play that game.

You can't just go around saying people are "assuredly" on PED's when it fits your agenda and then say others are "likely clean" when it fits your agenda like you laughably do with Canelo who is a literal drug cheat.

You say Floyd Mayweather is a clean athlete yet Ngannou isn't.

How could you possibly justify that opinion?

In fact, go ahead now and justify it.

The discussion sidetrack was specifically about using physiques as a basis for suspecting PED use.

Obviously Ngannou looks like a user. Wilder does not.

[dan-b]

He should retire from boxing and enjoy the rest of his life doing different things.