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  • #11
    Originally posted by deathofaclown View Post

    Well two of Usyk's three best wins are possibly Briedis and Gassiev. The latter has been beaten by Wallin. The former arguably beat Usyk, I had it 6-6, really could go either way.

    So far at HW Usyk has sc****d a 7-5 win v Chisora on the cards. Usyk's manager had it a draw. Then he beat AJ, the same guy that got bounced around the ring by Andy Ruiz. Then he arguably got knocked out by Dubois, that was on the belt line but he sold a low blow.

    So as ive shown, people can dismiss anyones resume if they have an agenda to.

    Taking Wlad's belts and Wilders 0 are still better than anything AJ and Usyk have done at heavyweight. Nobody can refute that.

    AJ's best win was a guy Fury beat 2 years earlier. Usyk's best wins are a guy already knocked out by Andy Ruiz, and a 7-5 victory against someone shot with 10 losses and had his 0 taken by Fury 10 years earlier....Yet people want to criticise Fury
    DId Europeans get a different feed of the Chisora/Usyk fight or something? Yall the only MF's who seem to think it was close. 9-3 fight, not at all difficult to score.


    Chisora/Parker was much closer.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Mr Giggles View Post
      His whole legacy is being shattered before our very eyes.

      All started with the Ngannou fight, terrible performance, controversy, some felt it could’ve gone either way.

      Now we have seen his best win, or second best, Deontay wilder EASILY beaten by a B level fighter. Not only that, another of his opponents on his record, Otto wallin, who gave him a semi tough fight, just got absolutely demolished By AJ.

      And I’ve ALWAYS believed this, Not some bandwagon I’m hopping on, but Usyk completely utterly obliterates and bamboozles Fury and stops him easily.

      February 17th will be the final nail in Tyson furys legacy.
      You fool! This thread proves you're a straight up casual. Zelda says so.
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      • #13
        Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post

        DId Europeans get a different feed of the Chisora/Usyk fight or something? Yall the only MF's who seem to think it was close. 9-3 fight, not at all difficult to score.


        Chisora/Parker was much closer.
        Judges had it 115-113. Alex Krassyuk said he thought it was a draw.

        It was kind of a 7-5, 8-4 type of fight. Either way, that's one of Usyk's heavyweight achievements, a close fight v Chisora. Along with faking a low blow because he got knocked out by Dubois

        But that's all you picked up on

        Has AJ or Usyk done anything better at heavyweight than taking Wlad's belts, or Wilder's 0? - the answer is no
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        • #14
          Originally posted by deathofaclown View Post

          Judges had it 115-113. Alex Krassyuk said he thought it was a draw.

          It was kind of a 7-5, 8-4 type of fight. Either way, that's one of Usyk's heavyweight achievements, a close fight v Chisora. Along with faking a low blow because he got knocked out by Dubois

          But that's all you picked up on

          Has AJ or Usyk done anything better at heavyweight than taking Wlad's belts, or Wilder's 0? - the answer is no
          I don't give a **** what the judges had it Canelo fans claim the Bivol fight was close because the judges had it 115-113. You stand by that one too?

          9-3 isn't a "close fight."

          And taking Wlad's belts would have been far more impressive if it hadn't happened 3 other times before that. Fury has the distinction of being the only person to beat Wlad without being able to stop him though, so there's that I suppose. That's an achievement, A close fight (115-112 on two judges cards!!) and 3 fights with Chisora. THAT is impressive!
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          • #15
            Weakest hw era in the history of boxing

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            • #16
              Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post

              I don't give a **** what the judges had it Canelo fans claim the Bivol fight was close because the judges had it 115-113. You stand by that one too?

              9-3 isn't a "close fight."

              And taking Wlad's belts would have been far more impressive if it hadn't happened 3 other times before that. Fury has the distinction of being the only person to beat Wlad without being able to stop him though, so there's that I suppose. That's an achievement, A close fight (115-112 on two judges cards!!) and 3 fights with Chisora. THAT is impressive!
              I totally forgot about that, in 30 some fights 3 of those were Chisora who has been beaten by everyone who is any good, and 3 fights with Wilder who's best win is a 40 year old that was out boxing him and just got shut out by Parker

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              • #17
                I've said all along fury needs to best usy k and josh

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Spray_resistant View Post

                  I totally forgot about that, in 30 some fights 3 of those were Chisora who has been beaten by everyone who is any good, and 3 fights with Wilder who's best win is a 40 year old that was out boxing him and just got shut out by Parker
                  Yet he was the first to beat Chisora, so everyone beating him after that was only repeating what Fury did. Also stopped him twice, rather than the 115-113 victory Usyk got. You can't knock Fury for beating Chisora when he was first to do it. Second fight was in 2014, before Fury had moved to to world level, it was a fight for the British and European title, so that was OK too. It was a domestic fight at the time.

                  The third fight was a joke that didnt need to happen but at least he beat him up which Usyk couldn't do.

                  Chisora whooped Takam easier than both AJ and Parker. Let's not forget Parker really lost and got dropped by Chisora in their first fight. Parkers trainer forced him to rematch Chisora because he wasn't comfortable with the gift. Nobody is saying Chisora is great but his amount of losses paints him in a worse light than he is when he beat the likes of Takam easier than some supposed top fighters and he should be 1-1 with Parker. Gave Usyk a better fight than AJ, Gassiev etc.

                  But at the end of the day, Fury is the one with the biggest and best wins out of all the top heavyweight. He's the one who opened up the division beating Wlad. Hes the one who took Wilders 0, Usyk has beaten AJ who was already knocked out. Aj hasn't beaten any top 3 heavyweight, unless you count Wlad who already lost to Fury.

                  So everyone's best wins pale in comparison to Fury's as it stands, novody can refute this point

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                  • #19
                    Honestly, this Wilder fight does hurt Fury, anyone saying this is just blind. Fury has NEVER actually looked all that good. 2 life and death fights with Wilder, perhaps the worst title fight of all time against Wlad, and an embarrassment against an MMA fighter.

                    Fury will make the HoF, but he is not a top 10 Heavy, he's just not.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by deathofaclown View Post

                      Yet he was the first to beat Chisora, so everyone beating him after that was only repeating what Fury did. Also stopped him twice, rather than the 115-113 victory Usyk got. You can't knock Fury for beating Chisora when he was first to do it. Second fight was in 2014, before Fury had moved to to world level, it was a fight for the British and European title, so that was OK too. It was a domestic fight at the time.

                      The third fight was a joke that didnt need to happen but at least he beat him up which Usyk couldn't do.

                      Chisora whooped Takam easier than both AJ and Parker. Let's not forget Parker really lost and got dropped by Chisora in their first fight. Parkers trainer forced him to rematch Chisora because he wasn't comfortable with the gift. Nobody is saying Chisora is great but his amount of losses paints him in a worse light than he is when he beat the likes of Takam easier than some supposed top fighters and he should be 1-1 with Parker. Gave Usyk a better fight than AJ, Gassiev etc.

                      But at the end of the day, Fury is the one with the biggest and best wins out of all the top heavyweight. He's the one who opened up the division beating Wlad. Hes the one who took Wilders 0, Usyk has beaten AJ who was already knocked out. Aj hasn't beaten any top 3 heavyweight, unless you count Wlad who already lost to Fury.

                      So everyone's best wins pale in comparison to Fury's as it stands, novody can refute this point
                      He fought a domestic level contender 3X, and overrated ko artist with one notable win 3X, McDermont 2X, a chinny past his prime cruiser who decked him, Wallin who Fury had alot of trouble with and AJ just stopped with no trouble at all, and Wlad his best win who was way past his prime and what 8 years older than Fury is now?

                      Lets not forget a disputed win over the MMA champion.

                      Its an awful resume for the supposed best HW of this era and you'd have to go to a great deal of mental gymnastics which you have to make Chisora sound like a notable win.

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