Comments Thread For: Wilder on Facing Joshua: The Only Thing That Can Stop it is One of Us Losing

[STREET CLEANER]

how is my brain clouded? you are the one saying fury was some great risk when most thought he was shot. how do you think that makes you look? was fury better than expected? yes but that doesnt mean wilder wasnt looking for easier fights or what he thought were easier fights and for much much less money. joshua was #1 and fury was irrelevant at that time. thats not even debatable. also if you look at the odds joshua was about a 2 to 1 fav over wilder at that time while wilder was a 2 to 1 fav over fury so yeah he took the easier fight.

Wilder got his asz kicked twice and forced a third fight. If he was a coward he would had gone away.

[daggum]

Wilder got his asz kicked twice and forced a third fight. If he was a coward he would had gone away.

i thought the point was he was scared of joshua? if you want to give him credit for taking a bunch of beatings thats ok. it was pretty funny but still doenst change the fact he was scared of joshua because he got beat up by someone else. for example if canelo fights some shot fighter like froch and gets ko'd in an upset well taht still doesnt change the fact that canelo was scared to fight benavidez and coming on here saying but he got ko'd by froch! doesnt really prove much in terms of canelo/benavidez

[Willow The Wisp]

and this is based on? he literally offered wilder 100 million dollars and wilder said no. then wilder was locked into 3 fury fights and has only had 1 fight since and that wasnt going to be joshua after 3 losses. now the fight is actually happening yet you are still repeating the same false accusation. so strange.

Ah, the 100 million offer myth. Say it enough and some folks start to beleive it. It wasn't you who invented it, you're just a repeater.

3 losses ???? Not according to the observers who matter.
The 1st fight saw Wilder effectively knock Fury out, in the 2nd knockdown Wilder scored that night for title unification. All the pitty-patting rounds aside, a draw was a fair verdict. But pressed for making a call, I'd score it for Wilder, and the 1 and 2 best of the post Klitschko era were solidified.

The 2nd fight was the best of Fury's career. But Wilder clearly had an off night, proven by...

Fight no. 3, where again, Fury was dumped hard twice and again almost stopped.

Both men covered themselves in GLORY in their historic trilogy fought for the one REAL title.

A.J., for his contribution, kept losing ugly again and again and again to sub top 10 contenders (Ruiz) and Cruiserweights (Usyk), eliminating his right to participate on the Wilder-Fury level.

Another, more fact based way of examining the same situation.

I'm sure we're both very eager to find out what happens next.

[Boxviewer]

oh you mean the same exact situation that is happening right now lmao! joshua and wilder both have to win their next fights or the fight is off. why couldnt he do that for 100 million? cause he wanted easy fights. now he is in desperation mode so he signed yet people keep blaming joshua due to their severe bias/lack of critical thinking. they come up with any excuse for him. also if you follow the timeline breazele was named mandatory before joshuas offer so the reason joshua and wilder were going to take one fight and then fight each other is due to that...it was literally baked into the contract to accomodate wilder but you are trying to twist it into something nefarious? so silly

MAR 6, 2019
The WBC has officially ordered heavyweight champion Deontay Wilder to fight mandatory challenger Dominic Breazeale.


Deontay Wilder offered $100m deal with DAZN as he eyes ... Deontay Wilder offered $100m deal with DAZN as he eyes ...
Mar 14, 2019

Don't mind them, bro. Wilder’s fans are very special. Even after Wilder has admitted on a footage that declined to fight AJ when he was offered a lot money but instead preferred to fight Greedy Belly these special fans will keep on repeating their their nonsensical lies. Wilder has fought 40+ bouts including two consecutive beat ups and yet he hasn't made up to $50M. Obviously Common sense is not Common for these folks.

[Oshio]

"Other than that, everything else that stopped it happening before like his manager and promoter"...

How easy it is for Wilder to and his team to blame every other person apart from themselves... This dude doesn't know how to take responsibility for his in/action at all.

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Ah, the 100 million offer myth. Say it enough and some folks start to beleive it. It wasn't you who invented it, you're just a repeater.

3 losses ???? Not according to the observers who matter.
The 1st fight saw Wilder effectively knock Fury out, in the 2nd knockdown Wilder scored that night for title unification. All the pitty-patting rounds aside, a draw was a fair verdict. But pressed for making a call, I'd score it for Wilder, and the 1 and 2 best of the post Klitschko era were solidified.

The 2nd fight was the best of Fury's career. But Wilder clearly had an off night, proven by...

Fight no. 3, where again, Fury was dumped hard twice and again almost stopped.

Both men covered themselves in GLORY in their historic trilogy fought for the one REAL title.

A.J., for his contribution, kept losing ugly again and again and again to sub top 10 contenders (Ruiz) and Cruiserweights (Usyk), eliminating his right to participate on the Wilder-Fury level.

Another, more fact based way of examining the same situation.

I'm sure we're both very eager to find out what happens next.

wilder and his manager admitted it was legit...guess they are repeaters too! they fell for just like i did woopsieeeeee

also lol to wilder winning the first fight good one

fact based but you wont admit the offer was real? the reason you wont admit it is because even you cant believe wilder would duck so hard lmao! and because if you did admit it was real you wouldnt have any defense for wilder rejecting it now woudl you? 100 milion to fight the #1 guy in the division or a lot less to fight breazele and the #7 guy which fury was. how you can try to spin this into wilder taking more of a risk...i mean wow you have a lot to overcome here and you arent doing it...at all. wilder chose the easy road and it didnt pay off. not much more to say then that. you can still like him as a fighter or enjoy watching his fights but dont pretend like he was out there trying to prove his greatness. do you like tank davis too?

[daggum]

"Other than that, everything else that stopped it happening before like his manager and promoter"...

How easy it is for Wilder to and his team to blame every other person apart from themselves... This dude doesn't know how to take responsibility for his in/action at all.

if i was wilder i would be so pissed at not onnly myself but the team around me for destroying his reputation on top of losing out on tens of millions of dollars. its possible wilder himself rejected the offer because he was scared of joshua but more than likely haymon simply tricked and manipulated him into rejecting it in order to further the pbc brand. wilder who doesnt seem very bright probably believed his lies and he also didnt mind the easier fights or at least what sohuld have been the easier fights. the charade all came crashing down though...mind bobbling

[daggum]

Don't mind them, bro. Wilder’s fans are very special. Even after Wilder has admitted on a footage that declined to fight AJ when he was offered a lot money but instead preferred to fight Greedy Belly these special fans will keep on repeating their their nonsensical lies. Wilder has fought 40+ bouts including two consecutive beat ups and yet he hasn't made up to $50M. Obviously Common sense is not Common for these folks.

we have two different wilder fanatics as well. there are the "the offer had secret hidden stipulations therefore wilder had to reject it" bunch and the "the offer wasnt real" bunch. both are hilarious in their own right. you can look at the contract and see it was 100 percent crafted around wilder and to his benefit. he had to fight breazele the wbc had already ordered it so they gave him a huge purse for that crappy fight, then joshua would fight wilder next, in the usa. OH MAH GAWD THE STIPULATIONS! how can wilder possibly agree to that!

the 100 million offer wasnt real guys are my fav cause literally everyone involved from wilder and his manager to hearn/joshua admit it was real, everyone in boxing media admits it was real, yet they come on here and say it wasnt lol!

[Willow The Wisp]

oh you mean the same exact situation that is happening right now lmao! joshua and wilder both have to win their next fights or the fight is off. why couldnt he do that for 100 million? cause he wanted easy fights. now he is in desperation mode so he signed yet people keep blaming joshua due to their severe bias/lack of critical thinking. they come up with any excuse for him. also if you follow the timeline breazele was named mandatory before joshuas offer so the reason joshua and wilder were going to take one fight and then fight each other is due to that...it was literally baked into the contract to accomodate wilder but you are trying to twist it into something nefarious? so silly

MAR 6, 2019
The WBC has officially ordered heavyweight champion Deontay Wilder to fight mandatory challenger Dominic Breazeale.


Deontay Wilder offered $100m deal with DAZN as he eyes ... Deontay Wilder offered $100m deal with DAZN as he eyes ...
Mar 14, 2019

Wilder boasts a net worth of 35-45 million dollars (US). The 43-2 (42) Bomber is one of the hardest hitting humans in recorded history, and stands to make a great deal more than that amount over the coming 12 months. Maybe you're desperate, but Deontay Wilder is not.

Luis Ortiz (2) and Tyson Fury (3) were tougher fights than Joshua would be for Wilder. More heart.

That said, I still kinda like Joshua against Fury. There would be advantageous odds paid out on that one, and styles do make fights.

[VislorTurlough]

Probably a 25% chance either of them lose. But a card this long - decent odds there will be an upset somewhere. Freak cut or something.