Comments Thread For: Andre Ward Says Canelo Alvarez Would Never Fight Him If He Was Active

[messi807]

still running with this lie that ward literally made up. its in court documents that ward didnt want the ggg fight. his own promoter said so under oath, along with not wanting to fight other guys hbo wanted like bute. why not look into that instead of simply repeating what ward says? so silly to believe PR propaganda. why do you think hbo kicked ward off...its right there in the court filings. opponent selection. and if you are talkign about the later roc nation offer they got busted on that one as well trying to fight ggg in a year when ggg was waiting to fight the cotto/canelo winner next since he was mandatory which means he was on a fight by fight basis yet roc nation wanted to lock him up for 2 fights(they admitted this)...something they knew he couldnt and wouldnt do. and to seal the deal roc nation even said "we thought ggg was available in 2015. we didnt know about the lemiuex fight." but then they didnt offer to fight him when he was available! they wanted to fight him in 2016? please. if you think a guy is available and you want to fight him, you offer to fight him when hes available. everyone in boxing knew the wbc situation. a cheap pr stunt because ward was salty ggg ruined his reputation and helped kick him off hbo earlier in his career. and as a kicker ward in 2015 said he cant make 168 anymore since his last fight at 168 was in 2013. not realistic to pretend like hes going down there for ggg. possible but not very probable.

Ain’t no one reading all that. Ward took risks to be great.. Golovkin sat in the same weight class all of his career and look where that got him. Dude even vacated to duck an ancient Erislandy Lara. Turned down a PBC deal to fight Jermall. Throughout his career Gennady has constantly taken the easy route. Those Canelo paydays destroyed any legacy he was gunning for, got greedy and took his eyes off the prize. Even turned down an undisputed fight for Canelo. Jeez.

[messi807]

Ward was a brilliant skilled fighter and he beat some top, top 168 pounders including Dawson here and arguably beat the top "killer" at 175 in Kovalev. I'd have liked to see Ward fighting a prime Andre Dirrell in S6 bc I think Dirrell beat Froch at that time.

As for Ward vs Canelo, this fight could've been made since Canelo fought for the first time at 168 in 2018 against Fielding. At that time Ward was around 33-34 y/o and his last fight was against Kovalev in 2017, so I think Ward could've fought Canelo if he really wanted and get a good payday. Ward probably is a little salty bc he was missing the Canelo PAYDAY.

I doubt it, ward turned down a froch rematch in UK for some nice money. He strikes me more of a ‘legacy’ guy. He was retired in 2018 due to his long-standing injury, so I don’t think the Canelo fight would’ve happened.

[messi807]

Ward is saying that Canelo only wants to fights big names who are past-prime, on their way out of the sport. Then Ward says that he retired because his body was no longer able to perform at the highest level. Then he says Canelo wouldn't have faced him if he was still active. But if Canelo is looking to fight past-prime guys then surely Ward would've been his ideal choice?

"Canelo only fights past-prime half-retired guys, so no way he'd fight a past-prime half-retired guy like me"

When Ward retired, his mandatories were Bivol and Beterbiev. A lot of people said he was ducking. It seems funny for him to say "those guys have never said my name in 6 years, there's a reason for that". But what is the reason, that they didn't want the fight? If Ward had stayed active, they would've been his next 2 opponents unless he vacated, so how can he paint the picture that they are the ones that didn't want it?

The difference is, Ward was ‘past prime’ and still P4P #1… so still would’ve been a risk Canelo would’ve swerved

[messi807]

Ward never lived up to the hype after winning super 6. He weight drained Dawson down to 168 then after that spent 4 years wasting his prime fighting C level bums.

Then finally stepped up again with a razor close win against kovalev that many thought he lost. Then in the rematch he throws a 5 punch combination to the balls that was far worse than the single shot that Usyk took from Dubois, except Ward had the ref on his side in this one.

After that lucky "stoppage win" he got in the rematch he retired rather than take on any challenges.

Now he is 39 and crying that a former super welterweight wouldnt theoretically fight him if he was still fighting. Dude who gives a ***, you are 39, the same age as Beterbiev, if you are so ***ing great then call out Beterbiev who is the same weight and age as you. But we see him crying about middleweights that wouldnt fight him.

This just sounds like tears. He retired #1 RING Magazine P4P and was Pound For Pound on every universal list when he retired. That doesn’t sound like ‘never living up to the hype’ after the Super 6? Warped reality?

[messi807]

Andrea Ward is a salty hoe. He punked out and retired to avoid Beterbiev and Bivol with his sorry ass career.

Bivol & Beterbiev were prospects with less than 10 fights & zero experience or fights against former champions or contenders when Ward retired. Make it believable at least lol

[messi807]

Revisionist history at its finest! Gennady Golovkin said that he would challenge anyone from 154-168 except for Ward.

However, when it came to Andre he conveniently moved the goal post. Take the time to research it. It’s posted on this site.

Speaks volumes, because 10 years later he still hasn’t fought anyone outside of 160. Only for a Canelo payday at 40 years old.

[Knuckle sandwich]

When on threads ward comes up, I think of Joe Calzaghe, ward then becomes irrelevant.

[champion4ever]

Speaks volumes, because 10 years later he still hasn’t fought anyone outside of 160. Only for a Canelo payday at 40 years old.

You are right. It’s very true.

[aaronbnb]

Are you ******? When were Ward or Canelo ever at the same weight.. Jesus Christ.

Canelo and Andre Ward didn't overlap. Andre Ward fought at 175 and retired in 2017. Canelo fought at 175 in 2019.

And that's the point. Andre Ward campaigning for the fight meant fighting on for a few more years.

If Andre had fought on for 2-3 more years, the fight could have happened in 2020 at 175.

[MulaKO]

A prime Ward would have easily defeated Canelo