Comments Thread For: Froch: Deontay Wilder Knocks Anthony Joshua Spark Out in One Round

[IronDanHamza]

The talent pool is shallower now than it has been in decades. That's why you have 4 weight champs like Broner and Mikey Garcia. You have Haney winning undisputed against Kambosos. And you have Usyk winning undisputed against average competition, and then he won the unified Heavyweight against the weakest champion since Charles Martin.

Usyk’s “average competition” are leaps and bounds better than the unranked journeyman that Toney lost and drew to multiple times in his prime years.

Toney is not on Usyk’s level I’m sorry to break it to you.

[wrecksracer]

Usyk’s “average competition” are leaps and bounds better than the unranked journeyman that Toney lost and drew to multiple times in his prime years.

Toney is not on Usyk’s level I’m sorry to break it to you.

You have failed to convince me. There's no doubt Toney lost focus for a few years. The way mythical matchups work is the best version of fighter A vs the best version of fighter B. You know that. The version of Toney that beat Jirov beats everybody Usyk did at Cruiserweight. Those guys weren't that good.

[IronDanHamza]

You have failed to convince me. There's no doubt Toney lost focus for a few years. The way mythical matchups work is the best version of fighter A vs the best version of fighter B. You know that. The version of Toney that beat Jirov beats everybody Usyk did at Cruiserweight. Those guys weren't that good.

I don’t care because you don’t live in reality.

Oh Toney drew and lost to unranked journeyman in his prime multiple times because he “lost focus” Very convenient.

The version of Toney he had a close fight with one of the worst CW title holders in history somehow now beats all those Crusierweights Usyk beat

Again, only in your fantasy land does that happen.

Over here in reality he beat no one or that calibur in clear or dominant fashion. He did nothing in his career to suggest he would go through Usyk’s CW resume undefeated. Zero.

[wrecksracer]

I don’t care because you don’t live in reality.

Oh Toney drew and lost to unranked journeyman in his prime multiple times because he “lost focus” Very convenient.

The version of Toney he had a close fight with one of the worst CW title holders in history somehow now beats all those Crusierweights Usyk beat

Again, only in your fantasy land does that happen.

Over here in reality he beat no one or that calibur in clear or dominant fashion. He did nothing in his career to suggest he would go through Usyk’s CW resume undefeated. Zero.

You have an inflated opinion of Breidis, Gassiev, and Huck. And you must care what I think, because you keep trying to prove your point. You are literally wasting your breath, because I don't respect your opinion.

[IronDanHamza]

You have an inflated opinion of Breidis, Gassiev, and Huck. And you must care what I think, because you keep trying to prove your point. You are literally wasting your breath, because I don't respect your opinion.

No, I just find it amusing when people have this warped deluded fantasy of Toney’s career so I entertain it.

Toney having a back and forth war with Jirov who is garbage and beat literally no one in his career now means he beats the likes of Bredis, Gassiev and Huck It’s hilarious.

The same guy who was dominated by Dave Tiberi and lost to Drake Thadzi and drew with Sanderline Williams in his prime years, all unranked journeyman, somehow goes through Usyk’s resume undefeated

Laughable. Your opinion of Toney isn’t based on reality it’s based of pure deluded fantasy and things that didn’t happen in his career.

[wrecksracer]

No, I just find it amusing when people have this warped deluded fantasy of Toney’s career so I entertain it.

Toney having a back and forth war with Jirov who is garbage and beat literally no one in his career now means he beats the likes of Bredis, Gassiev and Huck It’s hilarious.

The same guy who was dominated by Dave Tiberi and lost to Drake Thadzi and drew with Sanderline Williams in his prime years, all unranked journeyman, somehow goes through Usyk’s resume undefeated

Laughable. Your opinion of Toney isn’t based on reality it’s based of pure deluded fantasy and things that didn’t happen in his career.

Here's an interesting recent Best Cruiserweights of all time list: https://howtheyplay.com/individual-s...rs-of-All-Time

Why do you think James Toney and Vassily Jirov are on it, but not any of the guys Usyk fought? By the way, I didn't compile this list. It has all of the great Cruiserweights including Usyk, Haye, Holyfield, Toney, Jirov, Qawi.......but no Gassiev, Huck, or Breidis. You're right......this conversation is amusing. Apparently, your opinion of Jirov and Toney is not shared by many people. How does it feel to be wrong?

[IronDanHamza]

Here's an interesting recent Best Cruiserweights of all time list: https://howtheyplay.com/individual-s...rs-of-All-Time

Why do you think James Toney and Vassily Jirov are on it, but not any of the guys Usyk fought? By the way, I didn't compile this list. It has all of the great Cruiserweights including Usyk, Haye, Holyfield, Toney, Jirov, Qawi.......but no Gassiev, Huck, or Breidis. You're right......this conversation is amusing. Apparently, your opinion of Jirov and Toney is not shared by many people. How does it feel to be wrong?

Oh yeah, very “interesting list”. I.e a joke

Anaclet Wamba #10? Are you actually going to argue that Wamba is a better cruiserweight than Gassiev, Bredis and Huck?

Toney at #6? Totally retarded. When all is said and done any credible CW ATG list is going to have multiple Usyk opponents in the Top 10. That is just a fact.

You’re not with reality if you think Bredis, Gassiev and Huck won’t be ranked ahead of Jirov when all is said and done. It’s not even an argument.

It’s a

[wrecksracer]

Oh yeah, very “interesting list”. I.e a joke

Anaclet Wamba #10? Are you actually going to argue that Wamba is a better cruiserweight than Gassiev, Bredis and Huck?

Toney at #6? Totally retarded. When all is said and done any credible CW ATG list is going to have multiple Usyk opponents in the Top 10. That is just a fact.

You’re not with reality if you think Bredis, Gassiev and Huck won’t be ranked ahead of Jirov when all is said and done. It’s not even an argument.

It’s a

Yeah, nobody agrees with your take on Toney and Jirov. So sorry about your wrong opinion!

[IronDanHamza]

Yeah, nobody agrees with your take on Toney and Jirov. So sorry about your wrong opinion!

Based on what? Your joke of a list?

There is not a single credible CW list that would have Toney in it.

And when all those guys retire, Bredis, Gassiev and Huck will be on all credible CW lists.

Your list had fcking WAMBA on it

[wrecksracer]

Based on what? Your joke of a list?

There is not a single credible CW list that would have Toney in it.

And when all those guys retire, Bredis, Gassiev and Huck will be on all credible CW lists.

Your list had fcking WAMBA on it

it's not my list, it's somebody else's list from 2023. No Breidis, Gassiev, or Huck on it, and all 3 of them are in decline now. They will never be on a list like this. Wow! You're really taking your clear loss hard. It's safe to say Toney's Urban American style would trouble a stiff Brit or Eastern European. This isn't the domestic level you're used to. Good luck next time!