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  • Originally posted by wrecksracer View Post

    come back in 10 years with your list lol. Until then, you lose.
    ........Are you actually trying to argue that Wamba, Toney, Jirov etc are going to be ranked ahead of Gassiev and Bredis at CW?

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    • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

      ........Are you actually trying to argue that Wamba, Toney, Jirov etc are going to be ranked ahead of Gassiev and Bredis at CW?
      What you fail to understand is that the talent pool in boxing as a whole is shallower than it has been decades. Luckily for Breidis and Gassiev, there are 4 belts per weight class. It makes becoming a "champion" easier. Come back with that list!

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      • Originally posted by wrecksracer View Post

        What you fail to understand is that the talent pool in boxing as a whole is shallower than it has been decades. Luckily for Breidis and Gassiev, there are 4 belts per weight class. It makes becoming a "champion" easier. Come back with that list!
        ........Are you actually trying to argue that Wamba, Toney, Jirov etc are going to be ranked ahead of Gassiev and Bredis at CW?

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        • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

          ........Are you actually trying to argue that Wamba, Toney, Jirov etc are going to be ranked ahead of Gassiev and Bredis at CW?
          They actually are rated higher. Didn't you see my lists?

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          • Originally posted by wrecksracer View Post

            They actually are rated higher. Didn't you see my lists?
            I don't care about your worthless lists.

            Are you actually trying to argue that Wamba, Toney, Jirov etc are going to be ranked ahead of Gassiev and Bredis at CW?

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            • Originally posted by wrecksracer View Post

              What you fail to understand is that the talent pool in boxing as a whole is shallower than it has been decades. Luckily for Breidis and Gassiev, there are 4 belts per weight class. It makes becoming a "champion" easier. Come back with that list!
              What is the basis for this hypothesis?

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              • Originally posted by wrecksracer View Post

                Here's another list: https://boxingnewsonline.net/top-10-...s-of-all-time/

                wow! Why does Toney and Jirov make everybody's list but yours? And you double down on your wrongness! I'm sorry, but nobody believes you. Your entire outlook on life is wrong. Any any opinion you have on boxing is automatically suspect. How do you live with yourself?
                It is tangentially related, but Buster Johnson prefaces his list:
                "In 1979, the World Boxing Council became the first organization to create this weight division. The idea was for boxers weighing between 176 and 190 pounds to have their own division as heavyweights boxers were typically weighing around 210 by the 1970s".

                But, both Buster Johnson and Manny Rubio are writers, as opposed to historians, and appear out of their depth using the term "all-time". Writers (and casual fans) are spoon fed their information via current news dispatches, while historians take on the labor of research.
                If the task were put to me, I would not assume that history or weight are defined by the Sulaiman family.
                I would start my list along the lines of, Jack Dempsey, Rocky Marciano, Gene Tunney, Sam Langford.....

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                • Originally posted by BlackRobb View Post

                  Tim Bradley had a clearly better resume than Hatton. We don't even need to go beyond that. And Bradley whooped a Brit for his first title, no?
                  I'm talking about American fighters around today. But you knew that.

                  Bradley was a very good fighter, but he wasn't on Hatton's level. But if you want to list all his wins and compare them to Hatton's resume, then i'm happy to do that and prove Ricky has the better resume. But only after you list all the American wins today that are of worth. No funny business of inactivity or sabotage. And definitely no robberies.

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                  • Originally posted by wrecksracer View Post

                    Oh look! The fan boy is back! Your views are so skewed and biased that you can't even be taken seriously.
                    Point out specifically what views are supposedly skewed? Then we'll go over them and see who can support their point. Deal? Or just keep running and deflecting because you know you waste your time on here due to not being able to handle reality.

                    Where are the answers to my other questions? Can't you find a world class fighter Jirov beat? Have you done the research on Evan Fields which is common knowledge? Is Bermain Stiverne better than AJ and has the greater accomplishments?

                    So many questions to your comments but a refusal to answer. Hmmm.

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                    • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

                      I'm talking about American fighters around today. But you knew that.

                      Bradley was a very good fighter, but he wasn't on Hatton's level. But if you want to list all his wins and compare them to Hatton's resume, then i'm happy to do that and prove Ricky has the better resume. But only after you list all the American wins today that are of worth. No funny business of inactivity or sabotage. And definitely no robberies.
                      You have got to be kidding. Bradley beat: Junior Witter, Diego Chaves, Kendall Holt, Brandon Rios, Jesse Vargas, Joel Casamayor, Devon Alexander, Juan Manuel Marquez, Lamont Peterson, Ruslan Provodnikov. I admit Tim got a gift in the first Pacquiao fight.

                      Hatton's best wins were: Ray Oliveira, Carlos Maussa, Freddie Pendleton, Paulie Malinaggi, Juan Urango, Luis Collazo and Jose Luis Castillo. Ricky clearly got a gift against Collazo in Boston. Castillo was moving up in weight for a check and had just lost his brother to a murder.

                      No comparison. Bradley only lost to elite fighters and had far more impressive wins. Ricky got stopped twice against elite fighters and lost to some journeyman named Senchenko.

                      Please go take your meds.

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