Does anyone here actually believe fury lost the ngannou fight?
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Right because we all know in boxing jabs don't count when the other guy is doing nothing but just walking forward getting outlanded. Your username is the eptitome of who you are. And you're a closet cuck. Hence why you always talk about blacks and cucks. You clearly have an infatutaion with them. Everyone knows it on this forum.
No one in their right mind believes it was a robbery except for headshots like you.Last edited by satiev1; 11-28-2023, 04:59 PM.Comment
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I had Fury edging it but it’s irrelevant because the simple he fact it was competitive, that he got dropped and even arguably lost the fight is a total embarrassment.
I like Fury but there will never be a more embarrassing moment for boxing than this.Comment
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I had Fury 6 rounds to 4 but if someone had it 5-5 and gave the win to Francis because of the knockdown i have no problem with that. I thought Tyson won the fight with his jab but all these casuals that are crying about robbery dont know the rules of the sport
Even as a Fury fan i have no problem saying that his conditioning and physique are a disgrace to boxing and athletes all over the worldComment
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I had Fury 6 rounds to 4 but if someone had it 5-5 and gave the win to Francis because of the knockdown i have no problem with that. I thought Tyson won the fight with his jab but all these casuals that are crying about robbery dont know the rules of the sport
Even as a Fury fan i have no problem saying that his conditioning and physique are a disgrace to boxing and athletes all over the world
And it was not just casual fans mate, who had Ngannou winning.
Many former professional boxers, all had Ngannou winning the fight 'Carl Froch being one of them. Many where fighters who have vocally praised and backed Fury for many years'.
Like I said in my posts, the one mistake Ngannou made was not really pressuring Fury when he had him hurt 'Ngannou ether through lack of boxing experience, allowed Fury back into the fight. Even if Ngannou did not get Fury out of there after the knock down, he could of definitively in my opinion most likely decked him again'.
But regardless, Ngannou fought the better fight 'Fury was the fighter who made more mistakes in the fight than Ngannou'.
Note: The only real credit I give Fury is? After being whacked, he got up off the decked and found a way back into the fight 'But Fury still with all his experience and apparent skills could not make the fight comfortable for himself, or dominate Nagnnou. Hardcore Fury fans should be very concerned with that performance, instead of trying to make it out to be something it was not'.
The game moves on, and Fury now need to prepare for Oleksandr Usyk etc.
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I've been boxing longer than that. I have amateur fights. If i turn pro now at the age of 46 with my amateur experience and take a top 10 guy the distance by winning rounds, that doesn't mean I'm an experienced fighter.Comment
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Fury won because its scored by rounds and he won more rounds even with the knockdown.
Doesnt tell the whole story though because those rounds, instead of dominating them against a guy in his debut, he barely sc****d by those rounds.
Hes the lineal heavyweight champion and he embarrassed himself against a 37 year old cage fighter who never even had an amateur boxing fight in his life. Fury's dad was a boxer, he had been training since he was in diapers, what in the ***.Last edited by elfag; 12-02-2023, 11:28 PM.Comment
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Count me as one who thinks Ngannou has a very clear argument to winning the fight, and that the narrative that Fury clearly won is a bunch of nonsense.
First, Ngannou did all the damage. He outlanded Fury in power punches, dropped Fury, and was basically uninjured the next day, unlike Fury. The argument that Fury won depends on the notion that Fury landed more jabs, which is true, BUT boxing is scored round by round. There also were very few punches thrown, Fury threw only 223 to Ngannou's 231. It's very easy to follow what landed too.
So let's look at the punch stats and score.
Round 1. Fury outlands Ngannou 11 to 6, although they were equal in power punches landed. 10-9 Fury.
Round 2. This is the critical round. Fury outlands Ngannou 7 to 6, landing just one extra jab. But Ngannou lands the most significant punches, and opens a cut on Fury with an uppercut. Boxing is scored on effective aggression and clean punches. I personally value a punch that did lasting damage over a single jab. If you disagree, this is the path to Fury winning, but it is on the strength of a single jab. 10-9 Ngannou, 19-19.
Round 3. We all know what happened this round. Fury gets dropped. 10-8 Ngannou, 27-29 Ngannou.
Round 4. Ngannou outlands Fury in both power punches and jabs, 8 to 6. 10-9 Ngannou, 36-39 Ngannou.
Round 5. Fury outlands Ngannou 9 to 6. Mostly jabs. 10-9 Fury, 46-48 Ngannou.
Round 6. Fury outlands Ngannou 9 to 5. 6 extra jabs. 10-9 Fury, 56-57 Ngannou.
Round 7. They both land 5 punches. Fury lands 2 jabs and 3 power to Ngannou's 1 jab and 4 power punches. What should win? 80% power punches or 60% on the same number of landed punches. 10-9 Ngannou, 65-67 Ngannou.
Round 8. Ngannou outlands Fury 10 to 9, landing an additional power punch and landing the more significant punches to boot. 10-9 Ngannou, 74-77 Ngannou.
Round 9. Fury outlands Ngannou 8 to 2. 10-9 Fury, 84-86 Ngannou.
Round 10. Fury outlands Ngannou 6 to 4. 10-9 Fury, 94-95 Ngannou.
Note that many of the rounds were very close in terms of punches landed. The extra jabs landed by Fury were all in a few of his more dominant rounds, and Ngannou still kept up in terms of power punches landed. He did more damage, frequently pushed the champion back, and scored the only knockdown, and was never in any trouble at all.
If you want to give Fury the win based on landing one additional jab in round 2, you do you. But it should never have been this close to begin with, and the notion that he clearly won is obviously BS. Most rounds there was only 1-2 punches separating them. And I am positive that if Ngannou had been the defending boxing champion and Fury had been the MMA debutante, that exact same fight would have been scored probably 7-3 Ngannou with a KD.
If you think Fury clearly won, I challenge you to post up a detailed breakdown of the fight proving it.Last edited by hogey; 12-03-2023, 03:38 AM.Comment
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