When will Wlad stop being a contender?

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  • dando
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    #21
    All this talk sort of makes me wish we saw Lewis vs Wlad (before Wlad lost to Sanders). Oh well, sounds like he has the potential to regain his former self but probably won't.

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    • Neuraxis
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      #22
      Originally posted by ejk22
      He should have stuck with Tommy Brooks because his fight against Mercer was Wlad at his very best. He took Mercer's punches and returned with his very own and TKO'd Mercer for the first time in Mercer's career. Hey Neuraxis do you know why Wlad left Tommy Brooks?
      I don't know for certain, but if isn't the Klitschkos acting idiotic with dismissing trainers after they just have really great fights (Wlad vs. Mercer and Vitali vs. Johnson), there was some criticism of Wlad taking too many jabs during that fight. And I don't really see why that was such a big deal seeing as how much Wlad was dominating the fight, Mercer has a good jab, and I really only counted Mercer landing one power shot upstairs all night.

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      • joeboxer
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        #23
        I would just like to say that Emanuel Steward is just like a super bowl ring. Everybody thinks they want one because the best guys always have it, but once you got it, that **** is too flashy and it kind of hurts your hand, and its heavy, so eventually you just put him in a drawer and never listen to the rediculous **** he says anyway.

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        • !! Anorak
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          #24
          Why does Wlad get his chin into range and Vitali doesn't? Williams (6'1) couldn't even get near Vitali's chin, yet all these shorter fighters reach Wlad's?

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          • joeboxer
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            #25
            Derryl williamson only really got there when Wlad tripped. Brewster only got there one time. Sandars only needed to get there one time and then Wlad didn't know what was happening, so really his chin doesn't get it that much.

            And Sanders and Williamson both got to Vitali a few times. Especially round 3 of the Sanders fight.


            I think the big difference is that people fighting Vitali are scared and people fighting Wlad have hope now.,

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            • Torino
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              #26
              Originally posted by whdempsey
              Sanders and Williams, Oquendo and McCline are all out. But Oquendo and McCline both have scheduled good tests in the near future, whereas Sanders and Williams just look through. Barrett deserves to be ranked in the top ten because of a long string of wins over decent opposition, interrupted by a competitive loss to a top-fifteen type fighter. Rahman deserves to be there because he's a former Champ, and he looked great knocking out a guy who pushed the guy who knocked Wlad out. Golota deserves it because the Ruiz fight was controversial. Anyway, my point is (and it's taken me a while to get here) Wlad, in my mind, is in the same group as the first four I mentioned, i.e., those who need to come back. The other four you named, though, are fairly ranked contenders, each of whom deserves a shot at the title soon.
              Understood, But the first four you mentioned already had their title shots, which is what my point was to begin with. Wlad, being a former champ as well belongs in the same group and deseves a shot just as much as all of them.

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              • !! Anorak
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                #27
                Hmmmm, yeah, I remember Sanders getting Vit's chin flush in the first...

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                • ejk22
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Neuraxis
                  I don't know for certain, but if isn't the Klitschkos acting idiotic with dismissing trainers after they just have really great fights (Wlad vs. Mercer and Vitali vs. Johnson), there was some criticism of Wlad taking too many jabs during that fight. And I don't really see why that was such a big deal seeing as how much Wlad was dominating the fight, Mercer has a good jab, and I really only counted Mercer landing one power shot upstairs all night.
                  Who did Vitali have as his trainer against Johnson? I thought it was Szdunek? (Did I spell that right). I don't recall anyone else training Vitali during that fight.

                  As far as the criticism goes in the Mercer fight, to me that's baloney. Mercer was one of the best jabbers in the game. You are bound to get tagged by him a few times. I think that is why Wlad lost to Sanders because switching trainers back and forth does not help one bit. Just look at Tyson since he left Rooney.

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                  • ejk22
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Anorak
                    Hmmmm, yeah, I remember Sanders getting Vit's chin flush in the first...
                    He hit Vitali flush in the chin a few times in that fight, the difference was Vitali knew how to handle it and defend himself properly.

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                    • SacTown1
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by joeboxer
                      I would just like to say that Emanuel Steward is just like a super bowl ring. Everybody thinks they want one because the best guys always have it, but once you got it, that **** is too flashy and it kind of hurts your hand, and its heavy, so eventually you just put him in a drawer and never listen to the rediculous **** he says anyway.
                      QUOTE OF THE WEEK!

                      I love the SB ring analogy, you hit the nail on the head my friend!

                      Steward USED to be a great trainer, now he's just finally making some $ off of his name recognition from his work w/ Lennox

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