When will Wlad stop being a contender?

[riz]

ye tht makes sence
but wlad jus needs a dam chin

[Mech.]

When will Wlad stop being a contender?

When the HW division stops looking like ****.



Id rather see a wlad fight over a ruiz fight.

[ejk22]

Wlad's old trainer was Sdunek, who is Vitali's current trainer, but along with Sdunek he worked with trainers such as Freddie Roach for the Danell Nicholson fight and Tommy Brooks for the Ray Mercer fight.

He should have stuck with Tommy Brooks because his fight against Mercer was Wlad at his very best. He took Mercer's punches and returned with his very own and TKO'd Mercer for the first time in Mercer's career. Hey Neuraxis do you know why Wlad left Tommy Brooks?

[masterdirector]

Mercer was about 40 at the time, was already down to fighting complete bums on Fox Sports Net, so I mean yeah Wlad beat a good fighter there, but marginally good at best. And Jameel McCline, LOL what an idiot. I was hoping McCline would upset him at first, but after seeing McCline flinch every time Wlad took a step forward, I wanted Klitschko to get rid of him. McCline is big as hell yet he flinches and acts all scared against these smaller guys. That's why I have no doubt that Toney would've beat his ass. If McCline was intimidated by Wlad, imagine Toney. Wlad wasn't saying anything to McCline but you know Toney would be.

Michael Moorer told that huge basketball player, John Salley, back when Toney was still a middleweight not to go ****ing with Toney. So Lights Out had that bad ass rep even back then.

[Sulpiride]

Trouble with Wlad is that his list of victims is pretty impressive in the context of today's division...however, none of it has happened lately....I think he's damaged goods, irreparable, and that Williamson win only delays the inevitable (ie another KO loss). The big guy has a ton of heart but no chin and poor stamina.

If he can regain a fraction of the same composure he used to have, he could still beat Byrd again, Brewster in a rematch, probably Toney, Golota...basically any small, mentally fragile or non-punching HW...

[ejk22]

Mercer was about 40 at the time, was already down to fighting complete bums on Fox Sports Net, so I mean yeah Wlad beat a good fighter there, but marginally good at best. And Jameel McCline, LOL what an idiot. I was hoping McCline would upset him at first, but after seeing McCline flinch every time Wlad took a step forward, I wanted Klitschko to get rid of him. McCline is big as hell yet he flinches and acts all scared against these smaller guys. That's why I have no doubt that Toney would've beat his ass. If McCline was intimidated by Wlad, imagine Toney. Wlad wasn't saying anything to McCline but you know Toney would be.

Michael Moorer told that huge basketball player, John Salley, back when Toney was still a middleweight not to go ****ing with Toney. So Lights Out had that bad ass rep even back then.

**** Toney he is a ****ing big mouth *****.

[Torino]

If Wlad is knocked out again in his next fight vs Sergei Liakhovich or loses a decision, are his days as a title contender over. At what point does everybody think he will never get another title shot.

Any fighter can be knocked out. The odds are 99% will eventually get knocked out. It's the nature of the sport. Wladimir has only been literally knocked out once by Corrie Sanders. (Corner stopped the fight against Purrity, ref tripped Wladimir between rounds and stopped the fight against Brewster).

The question "If Wlad is knocked out again in his next fight vs Sergei Liakhovich or loses a decision, are his days as a title contender over?" is purely hypothetical. There are too many variables to consider making it difficult to give a just and intelligent answer.

I'm not saying Wladimir will win, I don't like to make predictions. As we all know, anything can happen in boxing. But I will say it doesn't look good for Serguei.

Wlad does have unanswered questions about him, but he has already earned the right to be considered a contender unlike some recent title contenders.

The question I would ask is who deserves a shot more, McCline, Golota, Oquendo, Rahman, Williams, Sanders, Barrett,or Wladimir? IMO - He belongs in that group just as much if not more than the rest of them.

[whdempsey]

Reggie Strickland

A matter of pure aesthetics I suppose. People say Holyfield should retire....I say Strickland should.
I like Wlad, and he should be allowed to fight regardless; in the spirit of being fair to those who actually deserve it.

I realize he is not in title contention, but according to his statements on "Real Sports", he seems to think he is.
Perception is reality, and beauty is in the eye of the beholder,
I do not appreciate 272 losses however. That is too much, and consitutes placing himself in grave danger.

Wlad is a big strong young guy. He is fine.

Very nice post.

[whdempsey]

Any fighter can be knocked out. The odds are 99% will eventually get knocked out. It's the nature of the sport. Wladimir has only been literally knocked out once by Corrie Sanders. (Corner stopped the fight against Purrity, ref tripped Wladimir between rounds and stopped the fight against Brewster).

The question "If Wlad is knocked out again in his next fight vs Sergei Liakhovich or loses a decision, are his days as a title contender over?" is purely hypothetical. There are too many variables to consider making it difficult to give a just and intelligent answer.

I'm not saying Wladimir will win, I don't like to make predictions. As we all know, anything can happen in boxing. But I will say it doesn't look good for Serguei.

Wlad does have unanswered questions about him, but he has already earned the right to be considered a contender unlike some recent title contenders.

The question I would ask is who deserves a shot more, McCline, Golota, Oquendo, Rahman, Williams, Sanders, Barrett,or Wladimir? IMO - He belongs in that group just as much if not more than the rest of them.

Sanders and Williams, Oquendo and McCline are all out. But Oquendo and McCline both have scheduled good tests in the near future, whereas Sanders and Williams just look through. Barrett deserves to be ranked in the top ten because of a long string of wins over decent opposition, interrupted by a competitive loss to a top-fifteen type fighter. Rahman deserves to be there because he's a former Champ, and he looked great knocking out a guy who pushed the guy who knocked Wlad out. Golota deserves it because the Ruiz fight was controversial. Anyway, my point is (and it's taken me a while to get here) Wlad, in my mind, is in the same group as the first four I mentioned, i.e., those who need to come back. The other four you named, though, are fairly ranked contenders, each of whom deserves a shot at the title soon.

[paul750]

he's a great boxer, even better than Vitali, but you need to have a decent chin to be a great heavyweight and he hasn't got one, but i do still think he can win a lot more fights through his boxing ability alone.