DEEPSTRIKE by Jabbr: The End Of Compubox And The Dave Morettis Of the World?

[Cypocryphy]

I've been watching these matches that have been judged by DeepStrike, an artificial intelligence boxing scoring system produced by Jabbr. I have been going out of my way to find mistakes with DeepStrike, and 99 percent of the time, I'm wrong. DeepStrike is incredibly accurate.

Jabbr who makes DeepStrike has been uploading some recent fights to show how accurate it is and how it would help clean up the sport of boxing. We all know that Compubox on the best of days is only moderately accurate. Too many times there are huge discrepancies in punches landed, and in those instances, it is su****iously favorable to the A-side fighter, practically exclusively favorable.

There are also the issues the sport has with poor judging, and it appears that DeepStrike offers the public the opportunity to help clean up the sport and remove human error, whether it's from incompetence, bias or corruption. Of course with the issue of corruption, there will be a lot of resistance toward replacing human judges with AI. These promotional companies and networks are not going to willingly lose the ability to influence the outcome of a match, so I'm not confident that DeepStrike's services will be enlisted anytime soon.

Nonetheless, I believe that we, as boxing fans, should support Jabbr and Deepstrike. I think we should push to have DeepStrike the standard for judging professional boxing matches. As I understand it, although DeepStrike cannot visual represent the fight in real time (being 3x slower than the actual fight), it can determine pouches landed and missed in real time. So at the moment, it is superior to Compubox.

As an example of DeepStrikes capabilities, we have Canelo vs Golovkin II. I encourage you to try to find something the AI missed. I haven't finished the fight yet, but so far, every time I have though the AI missed or misrepresented a strike, I saw I was the one who was incorrect after slowing the fight down and watching in slow-motion.

Golovkin vs Canelo II:

(BTW: Let's see how long it takes aboutfkntime to show his ugly mug in this thread. I give it less than 24 hours )

[dan-b]

Interesting but it won't prevent controversy. For one thing, professional boxing isn't simply a case of tallying punches landed, which is why Compubox was at best indicative of an outcome.

Also, technology has been introduced to other sports with mixed results. Look at VAR in football (or soccer if you're American). Fans hate it even though they'd been complaining about poor refereeing decisions for years. It often just moves the controversy somewhere else.

Better off just accepting there will always be unpredictability in sports.

[Cypocryphy]

Interesting but it won't prevent controversy. For one thing, professional boxing isn't simply a case of tallying punches landed, which is why Compubox was at best indicative of an outcome.

Also, technology has been introduced to other sports with mixed results. Look at VAR in football (or soccer if you're American). Fans hate it even though they'd been complaining about poor refereeing decisions for years. It often just moves the controversy somewhere else.

Better off just accepting there will always be unpredictability in sports.

But it doesn't just tally punches. You should watch it and then post rather than post before watching. If you watched it, you'd see that the punches are measured out on a scale of intensity. There are five different levels, from minimum impact to max impact.

Also, it assesses combinations, and it also assesses pressure and aggression, which go toward scoring ring generalship and effective aggression.

So in response, it's not just tallying punches.

[dan-b]

But it doesn't just tally punches. You should watch it and then post rather than post before watching. If you watched it, you'd see that the punches are measured out on a scale of intensity. There are five different levels, from minimum impact to max impact.

Also, it assesses combinations, and it also assesses pressure and aggression, which go toward scoring ring generalship and effective aggression.

So in response, it's not just tallying punches.

I understand, but people will still dispute the parameters set by flawed humans. It won't lead to controversy-free scoring in boxing.

[Cypocryphy]

Interesting but it won't prevent controversy. For one thing, professional boxing isn't simply a case of tallying punches landed, which is why Compubox was at best indicative of an outcome.

Also, technology has been introduced to other sports with mixed results. Look at VAR in football (or soccer if you're American). Fans hate it even though they'd been complaining about poor refereeing decisions for years. It often just moves the controversy somewhere else.

Better off just accepting there will always be unpredictability in sports.

And also, VAR is not the problem. There is nothing wrong with VAR. You only have issues with that in the English Premier League because they still allow for human influence. For example, in the Champions League, VAR is done automatically for things such as offside calls. That's not the case in the Premier League because they want to be able to assess the calls, claiming that having a man offside by a millimeter does not help the sport.

You only have these controversies where human error is still allowed, that being the Premier League and some others.

[Cypocryphy]

I understand, but people will still dispute the parameters set by flawed humans. It won't lead to controversy-free scoring in boxing.

I'm watching the Canleo and Golovkin fight right now. While I'm watching it, you should give it a go too and see if you can find errors, then post them here. I already watched the Lomachenko - Haney fight, and in the whole fight, I found one error (maybe two), which was a punch landed by Haney in the ninth round that wasn't counted. However, even if it were counted, it wouldn't have changed the outcome of that round. And I really went out of my way to find errors in that one. (I might post that one too later.)

Anyway, I encourage you to watch this fight and try to find mistakes. So far I haven't been able to find any, and I'm in round 5 at the moment.

[4truth]

At least we could rule out promoter influence and outright bribery. Those are no small things in boxing.

[crimsonfalcon07]

It might help clean up boxing, and that's precisely why it won't be adopted. There's a lot of things that could be done to clean up boxing, none of which require any technological adoption, etc, and none have gotten traction. Why? Because boxing is corrupt, and the powers in it prefer it to stay corrupt so they can keep making money.

[Cypocryphy]

At least we could rule out promoter influence and outright bribery. Those are no small things in boxing.

I'm hoping man. I don't think there's anyway to eliminate corruption completely, but I think we can push toward a centralized governing body for the sport, a federal sporting agency to oversee the states. Atlas and others pushed for this but to no avail. I think senator McCain spearheaded this movement but unfortunately didn't live long enough to get it over the line. I don't know of anyone else in a position of power who's pushing toward cleaning up the sport.

Anyway, this would go a long way toward providing an even playing field.

[Cypocryphy]

It might help clean up boxing, and that's precisely why it won't be adopted. There's a lot of things that could be done to clean up boxing, none of which require any technological adoption, etc, and none have gotten traction. Why? Because boxing is corrupt, and the powers in it prefer it to stay corrupt so they can keep making money.

Unfortunately, this is the truth of the matter. But I'm not going to lose hope for the sport. We just need to have a centralized governing body so that spurious influences (e.g. Top Rank) can't influence state bodies (e.g. NAC) and corrupt the sport.