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  • #51
    Originally posted by TMLT87 View Post



    ​Lol nobody gives a shyt about him fighting Hrgovic for a ****ing IBF title. Why are you shilling for his substandard boring ass opponents?
    Joshua does. he wants another belt.

    He doesn`t care that you want him to fight Wilder.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post

      You must rate Joshua really highly if fighting Wallin is not a challenge.

      Why are people still acting as if Joshua is a World Champion, Joshua is a contender.

      Is Hrgovic a challenge for Joshua is if wins vs Wallin?

      You must understand that Joshua's main goal is to fight for a World title again, so this fight makes 100% sense.

      What do you want from Joshua? He has objectively fought the most top level fighters consistently out of all top level Heavyweight.

      Note: 57Blues, so how highly do you rate Joshua sounds like you rate him as a top-3 Heavyweight? The reason why I ask this question because people act as if Johsua is done, or was never a elite level Heavyweight within this era 'That is what they say, but your behavior tells me what you really believe about Joshua'.

      How do I rate Joshua? Well he has been one of the better Heavyweight Champions of this era, but now he is a contender 'And needs to fight his way back into title contention, this fight vs Wallin is 100% a real Heavyweight fight and challenge for Joshua'.

      If people don't think this fight is a challenge for Joshua, you must rate him extremely highly etc.

      that is a lot of words to say you agree with me even in a round about almost off center way.................

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      • #53
        Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post

        He wasn't weight drained, he just realized that all his hard partying and being a fat **** caught up to him, and he couldn't move like he used to. That's why he had to go learn how to plant his feet and box like a pro.
        It is possible to be still fat and still be weight drained.

        If you are 300lbs but extreme diet and lose 50lbs in 2 months you will still be a 250lbs fat ass but you will be weight drained and have tanked your testosterone levels.

        I've done extreme diets before as I yoyo in weight and I've gone from 230lbs down to 200 in like 6 weeks, training a lot and eating well and I felt like absoloute ****, I was still somewhat flabby as well but it was just not a sensible rate of loss, you feel tired, weak, "drained"

        ​​​​​Being weight drained isn't about how ripped you are it's about how much weight you lose in a period of time, if it's too much and not a lt a healthy weight, then you will be weight drained.

        Fury's body in the Wallin and Ngannou fights tells the story, yes he always has a high level of bodyfat, but in his best fights like Klitschko and Wilder 2, he does have a fair amount of muscle mass you can see under the fat. In both those fights he had very little muscle mass to fat ratio.
        Last edited by Atypicalbrit; 11-21-2023, 06:03 AM.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by 57Blues View Post

          that is a lot of words to say you agree with me even in a round about almost off center way.................
          You don't think this fight is a challenge for Joshua 'I do think it is a challenge, and will be a solid win'.

          If you don't think it is a challenge for Joshua 'You must rate him extremely highly'.

          Note: Joshua is a contender mate, not a current World Champion 'Joshua has to fight his way back towards a title fight, this fight make's 100% sense' etc.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post

            You don't think this fight is a challenge for Joshua 'I do think it is a challenge, and will be a solid win'.

            If you don't think it is a challenge for Joshua 'You must rate him extremely highly'.

            Note: Joshua is a contender mate, not a current World Champion 'Joshua has to fight his way back towards a title fight, this fight make's 100% sense' etc.
            Have a nice Holiday see you when you get back................. to reality...............

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            • #56
              Fury has been dropped 9 times. including by featherfisted cruiserweights.

              if you didn't drop him after landing flush repeatedly. you are feather fisted.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post
                I was more shocked he had hurt Gassiev than cut Fury. If he had Gassiev hurt, he can hurt AJ.
                Why do you think that is some kind of achievement? Gassiev has never fought a top 50 HW in his life before. It was an embarrassment that he actually went the distance with Otto and gave him an SD. It is also funny what Otto has to say regarding Fury. If he had hurt Fury, then why did he not finish him off? The only thing he did was open up a cut Fury had previously which could happen in a fight.

                For a man whose best win is Breazeale who was on his way out, he has some big claims to make. It was Breazeale's last fight, coming off a KO loss, and almost two years of inactivity. Yet, Otto could not seriously hurt him. In fact, Breazeale won some of the later rounds showing that it was, in fact, Otto who might have been more tired or hurt because Breazeale kept coming forward the entire fight.

                Let's also not forget that Otto is not in the Ring's top-10 ranking and the only reason he's high up in IBF is because that sanctioning body has struggled to motivate fighters to fight for its eliminators and mandatories. Both Otto and Gassiev were down the rankings but magically got the 2nd spot. I am not blaming AJ for taking this fight because it is an opportunity to sneak into the rankings. But let's not get carried away and pretend as this is some sort of a competitive fight. AJ knocks him out faster than he KO'ed Helenius.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Zelda View Post

                  Why do you think that is some kind of achievement? Gassiev has never fought a top 50 HW in his life before. It was an embarrassment that he actually went the distance with Otto and gave him an SD. It is also funny what Otto has to say regarding Fury. If he had hurt Fury, then why did he not finish him off? The only thing he did was open up a cut Fury had previously which could happen in a fight.

                  For a man whose best win is Breazeale who was on his way out, he has some big claims to make. It was Breazeale's last fight, coming off a KO loss, and almost two years of inactivity. Yet, Otto could not seriously hurt him. In fact, Breazeale won some of the later rounds showing that it was, in fact, Otto who might have been more tired or hurt because Breazeale kept coming forward the entire fight.

                  Let's also not forget that Otto is not in the Ring's top-10 ranking and the only reason he's high up in IBF is because that sanctioning body has struggled to motivate fighters to fight for its eliminators and mandatories. Both Otto and Gassiev were down the rankings but magically got the 2nd spot. I am not blaming AJ for taking this fight because it is an opportunity to sneak into the rankings. But let's not get carried away and pretend as this is some sort of a competitive fight. AJ knocks him out faster than he KO'ed Helenius.
                  Your first paragraph just shows you didn't watch the Wallin/Gassiev fight, since that was easily a 9-3 fight. "If he had him hurt, why didn't he finish him off" ****, if AJ had Usyk hurt so fking bad in the 9th round why did he get ass ****d in the championship rounds? AJ Knocked Unranked Andy down and then got bludgeoned for the next few rounds and quit in his corner. Since when did hurting someone lead to a 100% stoppage rate?

                  He's number ten with Ring, actually. He's also number four with TBRB.

                  Lastly, that's a whole lot of words to say that he's nowhere near AJ's level. Did you do the same thing for Usyk before the Joshua fight, by chance? Heleinus had been stopped 4 times, and had just fought a week earlier. What makes you believe Wallin (who has never been stopped) will get KO'd faster than Heleinus?
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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Atypicalbrit View Post

                    It is possible to be still fat and still be weight drained.

                    If you are 300lbs but extreme diet and lose 50lbs in 2 months you will still be a 250lbs fat ass but you will be weight drained and have tanked your testosterone levels.

                    I've done extreme diets before as I yoyo in weight and I've gone from 230lbs down to 200 in like 6 weeks, training a lot and eating well and I felt like absoloute ****, I was still somewhat flabby as well but it was just not a sensible rate of loss, you feel tired, weak, "drained"

                    ​​​​​Being weight drained isn't about how ripped you are it's about how much weight you lose in a period of time, if it's too much and not a lt a healthy weight, then you will be weight drained.

                    Fury's body in the Wallin and Ngannou fights tells the story, yes he always has a high level of bodyfat, but in his best fights like Klitschko and Wilder 2, he does have a fair amount of muscle mass you can see under the fat. In both those fights he had very little muscle mass to fat ratio.
                    Did you read what I had said?

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Zelda View Post

                      Why do you think that is some kind of achievement? Gassiev has never fought a top 50 HW in his life before. It was an embarrassment that he actually went the distance with Otto and gave him an SD. It is also funny what Otto has to say regarding Fury. If he had hurt Fury, then why did he not finish him off? The only thing he did was open up a cut Fury had previously which could happen in a fight.

                      For a man whose best win is Breazeale who was on his way out, he has some big claims to make. It was Breazeale's last fight, coming off a KO loss, and almost two years of inactivity. Yet, Otto could not seriously hurt him. In fact, Breazeale won some of the later rounds showing that it was, in fact, Otto who might have been more tired or hurt because Breazeale kept coming forward the entire fight.

                      Let's also not forget that Otto is not in the Ring's top-10 ranking and the only reason he's high up in IBF is because that sanctioning body has struggled to motivate fighters to fight for its eliminators and mandatories. Both Otto and Gassiev were down the rankings but magically got the 2nd spot. I am not blaming AJ for taking this fight because it is an opportunity to sneak into the rankings. But let's not get carried away and pretend as this is some sort of a competitive fight. AJ knocks him out faster than he KO'ed Helenius.
                      Why you even post about heavyweights , when it is clear to everybody that yo don`t even watch fights?

                      You didn`t watch Gassiev - Wallin.

                      You don`t even know Wallin si N.10 by The Ring.

                      Why you people post about things you don`t watch?

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