Comments Thread For: Otto Wallin: "I Hurt Tyson Fury, I Can Hurt Anthony Joshua"

[The D3vil]

He's right.

[Zelda]

Why you even post about heavyweights , when it is clear to everybody that yo don`t even watch fights?

You didn`t watch Gassiev - Wallin.

You don`t even know Wallin si N.10 by The Ring.

Why you people post about things you don`t watch?

Make some actual point. I will give you Otto must have been a recent entry that I missed. But it doesn't change that his best win is still Breazeale. He hasn't faced any decent competition and won.

[Zelda]

Your first paragraph just shows you didn't watch the Wallin/Gassiev fight, since that was easily a 9-3 fight. "If he had him hurt, why didn't he finish him off" ****, if AJ had Usyk hurt so fking bad in the 9th round why did he get ass ****d in the championship rounds? AJ Knocked Unranked Andy down and then got bludgeoned for the next few rounds and quit in his corner. Since when did hurting someone lead to a 100% stoppage rate?

He's number ten with Ring, actually. He's also number four with TBRB.

Lastly, that's a whole lot of words to say that he's nowhere near AJ's level. Did you do the same thing for Usyk before the Joshua fight, by chance? Heleinus had been stopped 4 times, and had just fought a week earlier. What makes you believe Wallin (who has never been stopped) will get KO'd faster than Heleinus?

You fail to grasp the point. Firstly, you need to distinguish between stunning someone or getting a shot in vs "hurting someone bad". If that person was hurt badly, then you should go in and finish him. Or redefine what "hurt bad" really means. Dropping someone who gets up with his legs strong won't be a hurt bad in my book. AJ never dropped Usyk. Ali has been hurt before but got up and danced for the rest of the fight. Ruiz got clipped but got up and beat AJ. So, what does hurting bad mean for you? a temporary stunning or a beating up someone?

I am of the view that a big, strong, and technically sound guy like AJ should have beaten Usyk. Instead, either due to his lack of confidence or insistence to outbox Usyk, he fought the wrong fight and lost. At no point did AJ take advantage of his size or strength. I will give you Otto in Ring (perhaps a recent entry as I don't remember seeing it last time). Regarding Wallin never being stopped, it is because he hasn't ever fought good competition. Only Fury and that too pre-Kronk Fury and got a lucky cut.

[Monty Fisto]

We heard the same thing about Usyk too. Too small, no power. Yet the last time Joshua fought a talented southpaw boxer, he had a complete mental breakdown in the ring.

Before the Usyk fight I was having a reverse conversation with someone who claimed AJ knew how to deal with southpaws. My point then was it was a ridiculous sample size, as he had faced about two southpaws in his whole career. The same thing applies here. How he fared against Usyk, I would say, was more to do with the skills, engine and style of Usyk specifically than about a general problem with southpaws. You cannot draw any kind of general conclusion from a fighter from the way they fared against a single opponent.

[_Rexy_]

Before the Usyk fight I was having a reverse conversation with someone who claimed AJ knew how to deal with southpaws. My point then was it was a ridiculous sample size, as he had faced about two southpaws in his whole career. The same thing applies here. How he fared against Usyk, I would say, was more to do with the skills, engine and style of Usyk specifically than about a general problem with southpaws. You cannot draw any kind of general conclusion from a fighter from the way they fared against a single opponent.

I'm using AJ's words here

https://www.boxingscene.com/anthony-...-lefty--168370

[_Rexy_]

You fail to grasp the point. Firstly, you need to distinguish between stunning someone or getting a shot in vs "hurting someone bad". If that person was hurt badly, then you should go in and finish him. Or redefine what "hurt bad" really means. Dropping someone who gets up with his legs strong won't be a hurt bad in my book. AJ never dropped Usyk. Ali has been hurt before but got up and danced for the rest of the fight. Ruiz got clipped but got up and beat AJ. So, what does hurting bad mean for you? a temporary stunning or a beating up someone?

I am of the view that a big, strong, and technically sound guy like AJ should have beaten Usyk. Instead, either due to his lack of confidence or insistence to outbox Usyk, he fought the wrong fight and lost. At no point did AJ take advantage of his size or strength. I will give you Otto in Ring (perhaps a recent entry as I don't remember seeing it last time). Regarding Wallin never being stopped, it is because he hasn't ever fought good competition. Only Fury and that too pre-Kronk Fury and got a lucky cut.

Otto isn't small man. He's 6'5.5 and 240ish. His arms are 1 inch shorter than AJ. Also I never said he "hurt Gassiev bad" I said he hurt him, which he did. Ruiz wasn't hurt bad against AJ. AJ thought he was though, which led to AJ getting hurt bad and not recovering the entire fight.

Also, I'm of the view that if AJ had tried to storm Usyk, he would have eaten shots and gotten dropped. He may have the size, but he doesn't have the defense or chin to use it (or the stamina)

And yeah, looks like he was a recent entry, likely after the Gassiev fight. They say he's only been listed for 7 weeks or so. I mainly use TBRB so I never noticed.

[Monty Fisto]

I'm using AJ's words here

https://www.boxingscene.com/anthony-...-lefty--168370

Joshua says a lot, but there's nothing in the article to make me shift from my position about limited sample size. I maintain Usyk beating him was more about Usyk's boxing ability than about Usyk being a southpaw.

Regardless, Wallin is a tier below.

[_Rexy_]

Joshua says a lot, but there's nothing in the article to make me shift from my position about limited sample size. I maintain Usyk beating him was more about Usyk's boxing ability than about Usyk being a southpaw.

Regardless, Wallin is a tier below.

Of course he's a tier below Usyk lol. So is AJ, and the vast majority of boxers on the planet lol. I'm not saying Otto is just as good. Just saying he could win