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  • Griever0730
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    #81
    Originally posted by real raw

    Clearly, you do not understand boxing. Some people don't mind being hit and aren't afraid of being hit.
    You seem to understand far less bc that's not the point at all and your comments keep getting worse and more off target just when I thought they couldn't. Doesn't matter if you don't mind or aren't afraid of being hit. If you can't understand that boxing is the art of hit and don't get hit, idk what to tell you. Ain't gonna lie you got me dying laughing with some of this stuff you saying tho. Being the tougher guy doesn't get you far for long. Being the smarter guy does. Take that piece of advice with you my man.

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    • Boxfan83
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      #82
      Originally posted by Griever0730

      That's on the opponent to negate all of that. You don't want a guy to keep moving around, then cut off the ring. Was saying all night for DLS to cut off the ring more. Instead, he chose to stand in front of him and box with Stevenson and allow him to control how and where the fight would be fought. Lack of experience for DLS combined with Stevenson having quicker feet. You allow a fighter that you know moves alot to move alot, that's on the other guy. He allowed Stevenson to do what he wanted to do. Can't knock Stevenson when you've seen all his fights and know that's what he does.
      Shakur didnt walk De Los Santos down and cut off the ring. Why was it on De Los Santos to walk Shakur down? Thats bias asf. Judges shouldnt prejudge based on a fighters preceived style. A judge shouldnt see Stevenson and go, "well thats what he does." Boxing should be judged on the rules of boxing which (again) are effective punching and ring generalship. If you are avoiding getting hit effectively great but if you are not punching back effectively than whats the point?

      Should De Los Santos have started to lateral move from ring post to ring post telling Shakur to come get me in order to win?

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      • Boxfan83
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        #83
        Originally posted by uppercut510
        fight was trash but its not like he was fighting some scrub, he fought safe enough to win, but it wasnt a good look, the guy he fought was really good... the fact he talks so much sht is also why hes being laughed at
        I dont even think he did enough to win but judging by the unofficial scorecards and commentary it was a sure win for Shakur regardless.

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        • Carpe Diem
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          #84
          This is why I said Shakur isn’t near the boxer Floyd was. Call Floyd boring all you want, but at least he had that aesthetically pleasing(special effects) of transition from offense to defense or vice versa effortlessly and all in one motion without any wasted energy. Shakur has the fundamentals and tight defense, but he can’t quite balance them all together yet. He’s definitely a tier below than Floyd, Ward, or maybe even TBE(lol) Crawford in terms of boxing IQ.

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          • Griever0730
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            #85
            Originally posted by WarVeteranO01

            Shakur didnt walk De Los Santos down and cut off the ring. Why was it on De Los Santos to walk Shakur down? Thats bias asf. Judges shouldnt prejudge based on a fighters preceived style. A judge shouldnt see Stevenson and go, "well thats what he does." Boxing should be judged on the rules of boxing which (again) are effective punching and ring generalship. If you are avoiding getting hit effectively great but if you are not punching back effectively than whats the point?

            Should De Los Santos have started to lateral move from ring post to ring post telling Shakur to come get me in order to win?
            What bias? The fact that DLS sat in front on Stevenson and let Stevenson outbox him most of the night is exactly why he lost. Talking about prejudging is just an assumption. Stevenson was the more effective puncher in a fight where neither guy was all that effective and he controlled the ring for most of the night. What else needs to be said? DLS knew what type of fighter Stevenson is and did little to nothing about it. Made no adjustments at all and Stevenson did what he wanted to do. Plain and simple.

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            • uppercut510
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              #86
              Originally posted by WarVeteranO01

              I dont even think he did enough to win but judging by the unofficial scorecards and commentary it was a sure win for Shakur regardless.
              yeah bradley was trippin

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                #87
                Originally posted by Griever0730

                What bias? The fact that DLS sat in front on Stevenson and let Stevenson outbox him most of the night is exactly why he lost. Talking about prejudging is just an assumption. Stevenson was the more effective puncher in a fight where neither guy was all that effective and he controlled the ring for most of the night. What else needs to be said? DLS knew what type of fighter Stevenson is and did little to nothing about it. Made no adjustments at all and Stevenson did what he wanted to do. Plain and simple.
                Ok bro, have a great rest of your day. Your boy won and kept you as a fan so I guess its a win/win. Boxing as a sport just took another L, thats all.

                Have fun at Jazzercise tonight.

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                • Boxfan83
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by uppercut510

                  yeah bradley was trippin
                  He goes from criticizing to praising in the same breath.

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                  • Carpe Diem
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                    #89
                    Shakur has all the tools, he just need to know when to do certain things in the right moment, and that might come into play with more fights, etc, but he just need to have everything clicked at the same time. You can’t just stay on the defensive end and waiting and waiting with those little step backs, and not being able to know how to create openings by baiting your opponent to do exactly what you want, etc. His timing and accuracy could be a bit better too, but maybe I’m just nitpicking. Bottom line(call me an old head or hater), He ain’t no FLOYD “TB-Mother****!ng-E” MAYWEATHER.

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                    • Boxfan83
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Carpe Diem
                      This is why I said Shakur isn’t near the boxer Floyd was. Call Floyd boring all you want, but at least he had that aesthetically pleasing(special effects) of transition from offense to defense or vice versa effortlessly and all in one motion without any wasted energy. Shakur has the fundamentals and tight defense, but he can’t quite balance them all together yet. He’s definitely a tier below than Floyd, Ward, or maybe even TBE(lol) Crawford in terms of boxing IQ.
                      Floyd used his powerhand a lot and always tried to set it up.

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