Three things I hope to see the back of in 2024

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  • dan-b
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    #1

    Three things I hope to see the back of in 2024

    1. Talk of AJ - Wilder. If it happens I'll watch, but this tedious discussion about who's to blame is boring. The YouTube people you get your information and narratives from are rarely reliable so just pack it in.
    2. "Muh A side", "Muh split". I've already noticed a welcome reduction in discussion of this talking point on this board. It's ultimately an excuse for elites to avoid each other and the Saudis have shown how this can be negated so let's move on from this silliness.
    3. Celebration of the "four belt era". There was nothing impressive about adding the WBOgus to the list of belts a fighter needs to collect in order to reach so-called "undisputed" status. Even less so when they're being defended once a year or less.
    Any you'd like to add?
  • billeau2
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    1. Anytime individuals become fans of promoters it bothers me. A corollary to that is when fans try to reason out a conflict and deduce whom is at fault. Two primary errors in logic seem to persist in this process: a. The belief that a fighter is "scared" of another. Boxers are professionals. There are in fact men who were capable of "scaring" others, and they are few and far between. Off the top of my head I can think of three, Mike Tyson, Sonny Liston and Roberto Duran. Most fighters have been conditioned to deal with fear. b. The belief that anyone on a public forum can be privy to all the details of the negotiations and hence, adjudicate ethical/unethical legal/illegal conduct by on party, or another. It is just not possible.

    Charlie Zelenoff is a great analogy for belt organizations and boxing councils: Charlie made himself a belt... And so it is, because there is a way to pick the pockets of fighters for one more tin trinket, these organizations come and try to assert themselves. This results in more bad fighters being champs and... in councils sticking their noses where they do not belong: The British Boxing Board has the distinction of trying to prevent one of the most entertaining heavyweight scraps...maybe ever. That being the scrap between Chisora and Haye... what a distinction!

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    • Boxfan83
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      #3
      Originally posted by dan-b
      1. Talk of AJ - Wilder. If it happens I'll watch, but this tedious discussion about who's to blame is boring. The YouTube people you get your information and narratives from are rarely reliable so just pack it in.
      2. "Muh A side", "Muh split". I've already noticed a welcome reduction in discussion of this talking point on this board. It's ultimately an excuse for elites to avoid each other and the Saudis have shown how this can be negated so let's move on from this silliness.
      3. Celebration of the "four belt era". There was nothing impressive about adding the WBOgus to the list of belts a fighter needs to collect in order to reach so-called "undisputed" status. Even less so when they're being defended once a year or less.
      Any you'd like to add?
      The WBO has its flaws as a sanctioning body but has shown (as of recent) to be more credible than the WBC and WBA.

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      • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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        #4
        - Interim titles. If a champion can’t defend, just f***ing strip him.

        - The term “adverse analytical finding”. Just say they failed a f***ing drug test.

        - YouTubers, influencers, reality stars, novice ex MMA fighters and any exhibitions in general tbh. They’ve already done irreparable damage to the sport IMO.

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        • tomhawq
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          #5
          It's comical to see so-called undisputed champions fighting once a year. Four belts would take 4 years to defend. And you still have to consider rematches, money-grab fights that has nothing to do with defending belts, and all these numerous extras that take many months to get past to. I see no solution to this mess.

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          • Zaroku
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            #6
            Originally posted by WarVeteranO01

            The WBO has its flaws as a sanctioning body but has shown (as of recent) to be more credible than the WBC and WBA.
            I want you vatos locos to get paid for your service

            jhonny is a lil aribd

            tw
            y family sends pedejos to the marines
            the come out and call me sir

            the **** on command

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            • Richard Hamilton
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              #7
              The term WEIGHT BULLY. Please make it stop.

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              • Zaroku
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                #8
                Originally posted by billeau2
                1. Anytime individuals become fans of promoters it bothers me. A corollary to that is when fans try to reason out a conflict and deduce whom is at fault. Two primary errors in logic seem to persist in this process: a. The belief that a fighter is "scared" of another. Boxers are professionals. There are in fact men who were capable of "scaring" others, and they are few and far between. Off the top of my head I can think of three, Mike Tyson, Sonny Liston and Roberto Duran. Most fighters have been conditioned to deal with fear. b. The belief that anyone on a public forum can be privy to all the details of the negotiations and hence, adjudicate ethical/unethical legal/illegal conduct by on party, or another. It is just not possible.

                Charlie Zelenoff is a great analogy for belt organizations and boxing councils: Charlie made himself a belt... And so it is, because there is a way to pick the pockets of fighters for one more tin trinket, these organizations come and try to assert themselves. This results in more bad fighters being champs and... in councils sticking their noses where they do not belong: The British Boxing Board has the distinction of trying to prevent one of the most entertaining heavyweight scraps...maybe ever. That being the scrap between Chisora and Haye... what a distinction!
                Second guessing - the road less travelled

                I feel you get a lot of hate from guys who say I didn’t face true ****** ***

                so now I’m on a new trip

                I want to feed the poor
                keep my covenant sacred

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                • Joseph
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                  #9
                  The "Canelo vs Benavidez" talk. Granted, I do want that fight, but I'm so sick of hearing about it.

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                  • maguirre
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                    #10
                    I rarely watch and hear commentaries from youtube vloggers. Those people have to make money and come up with anything. It's their livelihood.

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