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  • PRINCEKOOL
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    #71
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza

    So you’re opposed to Fury doing that but totally ok with Usyk doing that?

    And you’re not seeing the issue with your stance?
    If Tyson Fury does not fight on December 23rd, is he in breech of his contract?

    How come you was not calling out Fury for giving both Joshua & Usyk ultimatums? Usyk is not really doing anything wrong here, he is just adhering to the contract 'Fury told him that he HAS to fight on December 23rd or else he will be in breech in contract and then their will be consequences'.

    Has the contract been altered now? Was there something team Usyk did not read in the contract?

    Note: I personally just think this is gamesmanship from team Usyk. Usyk might as well hammer Fury, with sociopolitical tactics until the fight happens 'It is just some gamesmanship'.

    Tyson Fury is in breech of contract, but maybe like always Team Fury and Tyson Fury are exempt of any real binding rules.

    As long as the fight happens next for both fighters, and a official date is announced then 'This situation will be resolved'. A official date of the fight needs to be 100% agreed, not announced or projected like it was for December 23rd. Which was always just a tactical move to promote Fury latest exhibition bout etc.

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    • dan-b
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      #72
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza

      As stated before I’m not even a fan of Fury mate This secular God nonsense you’re coming with is not a good look, it’s embarrassing.

      It doesn’t seem like you do want that. You’d rather the fight die over a date so you can somehow blame Fury for it when it’s Usyk’s team who are insisting that date than it happen 1-2 months later which is very easily done and plausible.

      Fury just got dropped and beat up, to expect him to now turn around in 7 weeks is ****** and if it was the other way round you’d be putting total blame the other way and rightfully so.
      It's the best fight in boxing. They've got a date, just get on with it.

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        #73
        Originally posted by Marchegiano
        Proof of injury? Look at his ****ing face, watch his tumble, TF? I get that Fury will have to have a Dr. say what everyone already knows, but ****, why are they even talking about it like as if I should give a **** or it'll be difficult for Fury to provide?
        Black eye?

        Fury said he would sue Usyk if he wasn't ready. Now a black eye is going to keep the fight from happening in two months?

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        • IronDanHamza
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          #74
          Originally posted by dan-b

          It's the best fight in boxing. They've got a date, just get on with it.
          You're being deliberately obtuse.

          Fury can't be ready in 7 weeks after the hard fight he's just had and no one should expect him to be so. Dec 23 was the plan IF he get's through this fight unscathed which clearly he didn't. There is literally no logical reason to not have this fight in Jan or Feb. None.

          What was your stance when Fury said he wouldn't budge on the date? I'm going to take a wild guess and say that you were critical of that.

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          • IronDanHamza
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            #75
            Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL

            If Tyson Fury does not fight on December 23rd, is he in breech of his contract?

            How come you was not calling out Fury for giving both Joshua & Usyk ultimatums? Usyk is not really doing anything wrong here, he is just adhering to the contract 'Fury told him that he HAS to fight on December 23rd or else he will be in breech in contract and then their will be consequences'.

            Has the contract been altered now? Was there something team Usyk did not read in the contract?

            Note: I personally just think this is gamesmanship from team Usyk. Usyk might as well hammer Fury, with sociopolitical tactics until the fight happens 'It is just some gamesmanship'.

            Tyson Fury is in breech of contract, but maybe like always Team Fury and Tyson Fury are exempt of any real binding rules.

            As long as the fight happens next for both fighters, and a official date is announced then 'This situation will be resolved'. A official date of the fight needs to be 100% agreed, not announced or projected like it was for December 23rd. Which was always just a tactical move to promote Fury latest exhibition bout etc.
            I did call him out for his bogus deadline on AJ and once all the facts presented themself to me I called him out for his antics with Usyk aswell.

            Let's pretend the date has already been signed, which we don't know, but even if it is, fights get postponed all the time.

            And in this case Fury just got dropped, hurt, and at times beaten up in a fight he was expected to be a tune up. So pushing it back is to be expected at this point.

            To let the fight die due to not budging on the date can only be seen as the person not budging's fault. End of story.

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            • dan-b
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              #76
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza

              You're being deliberately obtuse.

              Fury can't be ready in 7 weeks after the hard fight he's just had and no one should expect him to be so. Dec 23 was the plan IF he get's through this fight unscathed which clearly he didn't. There is literally no logical reason to not have this fight in Jan or Feb. None.

              What was your stance when Fury said he wouldn't budge on the date? I'm going to take a wild guess and say that you were critical of that.
              You're being argumentative for the sake of it.

              If you want to make those excuses for Fury, that's your call. I'm uninterested in that.

              Search my post history. I said nothing, his comment came amongst a sea of other quotes masquerading as "news".

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              • IronDanHamza
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                #77
                Originally posted by dan-b

                You're being argumentative for the sake of it.

                If you want to make those excuses for Fury, that's your call. I'm uninterested in that.

                Search my post history. I said nothing, his comment came amongst a sea of other quotes masquerading as "news".
                No you're making excuses for Usyk being obviously unreasonable. You can pretend that you wouldn't be saying the exact opposite if it was Fury but it's very obvious that you would be.

                If you actually want this fight to happen you wouldn't be ok with this fight doing over a date.

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                • dan-b
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza

                  No you're making excuses for Usyk being obviously unreasonable. You can pretend that you wouldn't be saying the exact opposite if it was Fury but it's very obvious that you would be.

                  If you actually want this fight to happen you wouldn't be ok with this fight doing over a date.
                  You're projecting your own investment onto me. I want the fight to happen on the date agreed. I hope the Saudis tell both of them that they need to get on with it or the deal's off. The loser can make their excuses between the 23rd and the (highly paid) rematch.

                  I'm sticking with my prediction of Fury on points, by the way.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Teetotaler69
                    No way people still defending fury lmao
                    Yeah, I don't understand how people are still giving him the benefit of the doubt...

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                    • dan-b
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by _Rexy_

                      Yeah, I don't understand how people are still giving him the benefit of the doubt...
                      It's because there's no incentive for people to climb down from their positions in an online context. Take the exchange I've been having above. The guy bristled at me saying he was a Fury worshipper, and yet he's doing all the things people emotionally invested in an individual fighter do: talking on their behalf; proffering excuses they haven't themselves given; accusing critics of being aligned with another fighter or having a hidden motive, etc.

                      It's boring, and a reminder of why I have a low post count.

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