Comments Thread For: Hearn: The Value of Fury-Usyk Has Plummeted, People Want Fury-Ngannou Rematch

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  • PRINCEKOOL
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    #41
    Originally posted by Zelda
    Eddie..go and make the Wilder fight instead of worrying about the value of other fights or fighters. Stop looking for every excuse to get away from that fight...first it was Hrgovic, then Zhang, and now Ngannou but in reality, AJ actually fought Franklin and Helenius and is looking for Charr or Kabayel. Also, if AJ ever fought Ngannou, it would be like the Ruiz II fight where AJ gets on his bike and goes for a boring 12-round decision. I bet AJ will win more comfortably but it will be one boring fight to watch.

    Once the emotions are over...we will realize that Fury had a bad night (most probably mentally underestimated Ngannou) and will prepare properly for Usyk. If anything, the fight has become more competitive now as previously Fury was the favorite.
    Anthony Joshua is not a World Heavyweight Champion, he is a contender trying to work his way back towards a title fight.

    Joshua's last two fights, have been at in and around the same level as Fury's 'Last two professional boxing fights'.

    Franklin pushed Whyte, and Helenius who has a win over Chisora in a close fight 'Was pretty much in and around the same level as Chisora'.

    Franklin was 22 pounds lighter, and training full-time for the Joshua fight 'I actually think Joshua's win over Franklin is superior to Fury's win over Whtye. Fury was doing nothing in the fight until he scored a fluke knock-out, you could tell it was a fluke knock-out by the way Fury and his team celebrated' .

    Note: Joshua also has a better win over Whyte than Fury, Joshua actually fought a version of Whyte who could actually move inside a boxing ring.

    Joshua is a contender, if he wants to fight potentially fight Ngannou well there is nothing stopping him from doing that 'The fight would be a big event, and it has a meaning. Ngannou has just decked, pushed and busted up Tyson Fury real good' etc.



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    • Zelda
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      #42
      Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL

      Anthony Joshua is not a World Heavyweight Champion, he is a contender trying to work his way back towards a title fight.

      Joshua's last two fights, have been at in and around the same level as Fury's 'Last two professional boxing fights'.

      Franklin pushed Whyte, and Helenius who has a win over Chisora in a close fight 'Was pretty much in and around the same level as Chisora'.

      Franklin was 22 pounds lighter, and training full-time for the Joshua fight 'I actually think Joshua's win over Franklin is superior to Fury's win over Whtye. Fury was doing nothing in the fight until he scored a fluke knock-out, you could tell it was a fluke knock-out by the way Fury and his team celebrated' .

      Note: Joshua also has a better win over Whyte than Fury, Joshua actually fought a version of Whyte who could actually move inside a boxing ring.

      Joshua is a contender, if he wants to fight potentially fight Ngannou well there is nothing stopping him from doing that 'The fight would be a big event, and it has a meaning. Ngannou has just decked, pushed and busted up Tyson Fury real good' etc.


      You think Franklin...a part-time boxer...is equivalent to Whyte, and Helenius who got KO'ed in the first round against Wilder is equivalent to Chisora? And you want people to take you seriously on this forum?

      Also, I do not rate Joshua lowly. I still think he beats or is competitive with almost everyone outside the other top 3. It is Eddie who does not believe in AJ to get him anything meaningful. Wilder-Joshua is a good fight that we have been waiting for so long.

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      • PRINCEKOOL
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        #43
        Originally posted by Zelda

        You think Franklin...a part-time boxer...is equivalent to Whyte, and Helenius who got KO'ed in the first round against Wilder is equivalent to Chisora? And you want people to take you seriously on this forum?

        Also, I do not rate Joshua lowly. I still think he beats or is competitive with almost everyone outside the other top 3. It is Eddie who does not believe in AJ to get him anything meaningful. Wilder-Joshua is a good fight that we have been waiting for so long.
        Franklin on his current form right now, and back then is arguable a better CURRENT fighter than Chisora 'And he proved that he was around Whyte's level. If Franklin was not at Whyte's level then? Whyte would of ****** him out'.

        It is just like Ngannou, if Tyson Fury was this monster all-time great fighter like his hardcore fans claim 'Then he would of ****** Ngannou out, that never happened mate did it? No'.

        Franklin was not part time by the time he fought Joshua 'He was able for the first time ever, train full-time for Joshua'.

        Franklin was a part time boxer when he fought Whyte, he pushed whyte in a close fight 'Many people thought he won'. Franklin was no longer a part time boxer when he fought Joshua, he was 22 pounds lighter and Joshua won 90-95% of the rounds 'It was a solid win'.

        Helenius is no matter what anybody says, is in and around the same level of fighter as Chisora 'Helenius has a win over Chisora, they fought and Helenius won the fight'.

        Chisora was also semi-retired before the third Fury fight, Joshua has also beaten a better version of Whyte than Fury.

        Note: Joshua was the first boxer to **** out Whyte, and version of Whyte that could actually move inside the boxing ring.

        Joshua has already been competitive with Usyk, in two back to back fights. What YOU THINK is not objective truth, Joshua is a more proven superior boxer to Ngannou. There is now a mass of evidence that Joshua without a doubt can definitively be competitive with Fury, if not beat him.

        So you think Joshua cannot compete with any of the top-3 Heavyweights or Top-4 because Joshua is actually one of the top-3 Heavyweights 'Since the weekend, if you are honest with yourself? There is a possibility that Tyson Fury could struggle vs any Top-10 Heavyweight in the game' There is a definitive possibility Fury currently may not be operating at a super high level.

        Tyson Fury has not been fighting at a high level mate, and neither as Anthony Joshua by the way 'But Joshua has more recently than Fury, fought at elite level and he was competitive vs Usyk' etc.





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          #44
          Originally posted by YGriffith
          The heavyweight championship as a whole lost all its value now, if undisputed is next, then it's gonna be the most disputed undisputed bout ever.
          That's why belts don't matter. Public opinion decides true champions, not the f**cking IBF. In boxing's first 40 years, champions were crowned based on public acclimation. Not some corrupt suit that pretends Vincenzo Guliateri is a middleweight champion.

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