Comments Thread For: Fury Makes a Pit Stop With Ngannou Before The Real Heavyweight Fight

[PRINCEKOOL]

Fury is going to show us all how a big guy should treat a small guy in the ring.

Fury is big but has good stamina because he does lots of cardio, he is elusive enough to not let you hit him (he has the lowest ratio of being hit in HW today), and can and will go toe-to-toe if needed. He has long arms, a good jab to make use of those long arms, decent skills, good upper body movement, great footwork, good presence of mind, excellent recovery time, good feints, can hit in combinations, can box both stances, can box both on the front foot and back foot.

Usyk has a good pace, nice footwork, good head movement, and can throw cheeky punches.

I cannot see how Usyk will deal with Fury. Fury's simply too good for him. Fury wins by KO unless Uyk keeps running and keeping his distance which would put him at a severe disadvantage.

Lowest ratio of being hit, but he has still been decked the most number of times out of the top-4 Heavyweights.

Lowest ratio of being hit, even though he has the least experience next to Wilder at actually fighting at World and Elite level.

Fury maybe once upon a time, was really developing his defense 'While training under Peter Fury, as The Riddler'.

But this version of Fury since his comeback, his defense is completely overrated 'It is not proven to be impregnable at a high level'.

Fury can be found inside of the ring, and he can be hit 'Wilder is not the most sophisticated fighter, his offense is not the most creative still he was able to land his biggest punchers on a fighter in Fury. Who at times during their trilogy was actively fighting with a style to avoid that scenario'.

Note: Tyson Fury is a complete fighter, in the sense that he can fight in all areas 'But I do not rate his defense as elite, or regard him as a all-time great defensive fighter' etc.

[Zelda]

Lowest ratio of being hit, but he has still been decked the most number of times out of the top-4 Heavyweights.

Lowest ratio of being hit, even though he has the least experience next to Wilder at actually fighting at World and Elite level.

Fury maybe once upon a time, was really developing his defense 'While training under Peter Fury, as The Riddler'.

But this version of Fury since his comeback, his defense is completely overrated 'It is not proven to be impregnable at a high level'.

Fury can be found inside of the ring, and he can be hit 'Wilder is not the most sophisticated fighter, his offense is not the most creative still he was able to land his biggest punchers on a fighter in Fury. Who at times during their trilogy was actively fighting with a style to avoid that scenario'.

Note: Tyson Fury is a complete fighter, in the sense that he can fight in all areas 'But I do not rate his defense as elite, or regard him as a all-time great defensive fighter' etc.

Because he's the only one of the other top 3 to have fought Wilder and that too thrice. Let AJ and Usyk fight Wilder first and we'll see if they get decked or not. Fury's defense may have deteriorated but his punching power has increased.

In my opinion, it will take someone like Wilder but with better stamina/defense to KO Fury. I do not think Usyk or AJ are doing that. Ngannou may have a chance if he's reckless and just closes the gap and hits hand and (luckily) connects. I do not think AJ or Usyk are winning on point.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Because he's the only one of the other top 3 to have fought Wilder and that too thrice. Let AJ and Usyk fight Wilder first and we'll see if they get decked or not. Fury's defense may have deteriorated but his punching power has increased.

In my opinion, it will take someone like Wilder but with better stamina/defense to KO Fury. I do not think Usyk or AJ are doing that. Ngannou may have a chance if he's reckless and just closes the gap and hits hand and (luckily) connects. I do not think AJ or Usyk are winning on point.

Fury was being decked before Wilder by fighters who were not World level Heavyweights.

Fury is innately a clumsy fighter, there are always moments of complete technical Calamity in his fights.

It was the power of Wilder which decked Fury. But if you watch Wilder vs Fury III? What lead to Fury being decked by Wilder first was 'A unforced error'.

Tyson Fury for no apparent reason, quite early on in the fight decided to square up to wilder as if he was opening the front door to his house 'Then BAM, Wilder decked him'.

Over the duration of the two Joshua vs Usyk fights, neither fighter produced those same kind of unforced errors even while fatigued 'This is why I have always regarded that match up skill for skill as the highest level Heavyweight match up since Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Kiltschko 2015'.

Anyone who has honestly watched Fury's entire career, knows he has always made those kind of technical mistakes due to his innate clumsiness. It was only while training under Peter Fury, I would say? Around the Martin Rogan fights, were Fury started to refine his defense under the tutorage of Peter Fury.

From the Martin Rogan fight to Wladimir Kilschko, this was when Fury's defense was at it's best 'While he was using his old school Riddler style, although he was still prone to making unforced errors and in general being clumsy his defense was rated at World level'.

As good as Fury's performance was vs Kiltschko, there were moments in that fight were he was clumsy 'And performed his favorite squaring up routine, and opening the front door'.

Note: Currently right now, I don't rate Fury's defense as elite 'I don't see the evidence for this, out boxing Whyte who could hardly move and breating a semi-retired Chisora in does not prove that his defense is elite'.

Whyte and Chisora were stylistically easy fights for Fury, neither fighter are great boxers and at that stage of their career's they could hardly move inside of a boxing ring.

I am not making the claim that Fury's defense is terrible, I just don't rate this version of Fury's defense as Elite level 'No fighter in the Heavyweight division has a elite level defense within this era in my opinion' etc.

[Zelda]

Fury was being decked before Wilder by fighters who were not World level Heavyweights.

Fury is innately a clumsy fighter, there are always moments of complete technical Calamity in his fights.

It was the power of Wilder which decked Fury. But if you watch Wilder vs Fury III? What lead to Fury being decked by Wilder first was 'A unforced error'.

Tyson Fury for no apparent reason, quite early on in the fight decided to square up to wilder as if he was opening the front door to his house 'Then BAM, Wilder decked him'.

Over the duration of the two Joshua vs Usyk fights, neither fighter produced those same kind of unforced errors even while fatigued 'This is why I have always regarded that match up skill for skill as the highest level Heavyweight match up since Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Kiltschko 2015'.

Anyone who has honestly watched Fury's entire career, knows he has always made those kind of technical mistakes due to his innate clumsiness. It was only while training under Peter Fury, I would say? Around the Martin Rogan fights, were Fury started to refine his defense under the tutorage of Peter Fury.

From the Martin Rogan fight to Wladimir Kilschko, this was when Fury's defense was at it's best 'While he was using his old school Riddler style, although he was still prone to making unforced errors and in general being clumsy his defense was rated at World level'.

As good as Fury's performance was vs Kiltschko, there were moments in that fight were he was clumsy 'And performed his favorite squaring up routine, and opening the front door'.

Note: Currently right now, I don't rate Fury's defense as elite 'I don't see the evidence for this, out boxing Whyte who could hardly move and breating a semi-retired Chisora in does not prove that his defense is elite'.

Whyte and Chisora were stylistically easy fights for Fury, neither fighter are great boxers and at that stage of their career's they could hardly move inside of a boxing ring.

I am not making the claim that Fury's defense is terrible, I just don't rate this version of Fury's defense as Elite level 'No fighter in the Heavyweight division has a elite level defense within this era in my opinion' etc.

MY bad...I forgot who I was talking to. The guy who cannot write a concise answer and tires you with long, irrelevant replies. Is there a point somewhere in there?

As I mentioned, Ngannou had a better chance and we saw that today. Fury was terrible after being out of the ring for so long or maybe taking this less seriously (or simply getting old). If a semi-decent Fury shows up, like the one who fought Whyte, I think he beats Usyk and AJ. I still stand by my word that a big puncher has a better chance against Fury. Usyk's too small and AJ's too timid.

[Pappy O’Daniel]

Yeah I’m gonna have to change my pick to Usyk winning.

[PRINCEKOOL]

MY bad...I forgot who I was talking to. The guy who cannot write a concise answer and tires you with long, irrelevant replies. Is there a point somewhere in there?

As I mentioned, Ngannou had a better chance and we saw that today. Fury was terrible after being out of the ring for so long or maybe taking this less seriously (or simply getting old). If a semi-decent Fury shows up, like the one who fought Whyte, I think he beats Usyk and AJ. I still stand by my word that a big puncher has a better chance against Fury. Usyk's too small and AJ's too timid.

Tyson Fury was decked again tonight mate, against a fighter in Ngannou who was fighting in his first ever boxing match 'A novice boxer'.

Tonight's fight says more about Tyson Fury's true current form, than it does about any other top level Heavyweight in the game.

You think a lot of things mate good for you, but those thoughts mythical Tyson Fury performances and outcomes that have not happened are irrelevant.

Tyson Fury was pushed tonight over 12 rounds against a novice boxer in Francis Ngannou 'If Fury was this monster fighter which many of his hardcore fans try to claim, there is no way that Ngannou should of ether won a round or survived the full 12 rounds'.

As I have highlighted in my past posts, Tyson Fury outside of Kiltschko & Wilder has barely fought at World level 'And I believe that type of behavior as fighter and Champion will at some point unearth itself'.

Tyson Fury has been checked tonight, all the hardcore Fury fans have been checked tonight 'Be magnanimous and just accept the fight, instead of trying to demean all other top level Heavyweights and dismiss their abilities just to protect Tyson Fury'.

Note: It was Tyson Fury tonight who fought Francis Ngannou and was decked and pushed over 12 rounds etc.

[Toffee]

Tyson Fury was decked again tonight mate, against a fighter in Ngannou who was fighting in his first ever boxing match 'A novice boxer'.

Tonight's fight says more about Tyson Fury's true current form, than it does about any other top level Heavyweight in the game.

You think a lot of things mate good for you, but those thoughts mythical Tyson Fury performances and outcomes that have not happened are irrelevant.

Tyson Fury was pushed tonight over 12 rounds against a novice boxer in Francis Ngannou 'If Fury was this monster fighter which many of his hardcore fans try to claim, there is no way that Ngannou should of ether won a round or survived the full 12 rounds'.

As I have highlighted in my past posts, Tyson Fury outside of Kiltschko & Wilder has barely fought at World level 'And I believe that type of behavior as fighter and Champion will at some point unearth itself'.

Tyson Fury has been checked tonight, all the hardcore Fury fans have been checked tonight 'Be magnanimous and just accept the fight, instead of trying to demean all other top level Heavyweights and dismiss their abilities just to protect Tyson Fury'.

Note: It was Tyson Fury tonight who fought Francis Ngannou and was decked and pushed over 12 rounds etc.

Quick correction... 10 rounds.

It wasn't a championship fight. It was an exhibition. Regardless of result it's the very worst cherry pick gone wrong in boxing history.

[Zelda]

Quick correction... 10 rounds.

It wasn't a championship fight. It was an exhibition. Regardless of result it's the very worst cherry pick gone wrong in boxing history.

I think everyone agrees that Fury looked terrible in this fight...either because of his ring rust, his lack of proper preparation, or simply because he is deteriorating with age. What I disagree with many people is that they gave Ngannou no chance because he is a "novice" as it was his first professional boxing match. Surely, Fury was the favorite going into the match (and disappointed) but Ngannou is no walkover. It is not like he started punching a few months ago. He is/was the MMA HW champ who has been used to punching and dodging punches for years.

Ngannou is no Youtuber/influencer who just jumped into boxing. He shouldn't have been rated that low to begin with and it was mostly due to the narrative built by some channels or rival promoters that people bought into the argument that Ngannou would be some walkover who Fury could play with and decide when to KO.

[TMLT87]

The "real heavyweight fight" is Ngannou/Jones in MMA, and this solidified it.

[PRINCEKOOL]

I think everyone agrees that Fury looked terrible in this fight...either because of his ring rust, his lack of proper preparation, or simply because he is deteriorating with age. What I disagree with many people is that they gave Ngannou no chance because he is a "novice" as it was his first professional boxing match. Surely, Fury was the favorite going into the match (and disappointed) but Ngannou is no walkover. It is not like he started punching a few months ago. He is/was the MMA HW champ who has been used to punching and dodging punches for years.

Ngannou is no Youtuber/influencer who just jumped into boxing. He shouldn't have been rated that low to begin with and it was mostly due to the narrative built by some channels or rival promoters that people bought into the argument that Ngannou would be some walkover who Fury could play with and decide when to KO.

Mcgregor was also used to dodging and punching for years, and had amateur experience as a boxer. Still a retired Floyd Mayweather Junior, beat Mcgregor and stopped him inside the distance.

Tyson Fury quite simply is not at the level of greatness his hardcore fans claim him to be 'That has been made very clear last night'.

Ngannou was a boxing novice mate. Boxing is a professorial sport with legitimate rankings, Ngannou should not of been rated very highly within the sport of boxing without beating no other top level Heavyweights, or even having a professional boxing match.

Tyson Fury technically has always looked terrible match, do you think skill for skill he looked great vs Wilder III? Fury's although he is a complete fighter, and can fight in all area's, he is a innately clumsy fighter.

Note: So now you are coming with the ring rust excuse, or lack of preparation. Fury's conditioning looked very similar to all of his recent fights to me. Just accept Tyson Fury for what he is as a fighter. Fury is a great fighter within this era of Heavyweights, but he has not proven himself to be unequivocally the greatest Heavyweight of this era and he is not a all-time great Champion.

Tyson Fury got checked last night, and his hardcore fans got checked. Just take the performance magnanimously, and stop attempting to tactically trying to dismiss and demean other top level Heavyweights.

Last night potentially said more about Tyson Fury true current form, than any other top Heavyweight in the game 'Nobody even knows who Ngannou has been training and sparring with? There have been no stories if him being released to the media of him bashing up and terrifying other solid Heavyweights' etc.