If Wilder needs full torque and a final whiplash shoulder extension to deliver his much vaunted knockout punch clean on the button how is it a paw to the face sent his good mate sprawling to the canvas ?
Simple answer is , Helenius took a dive in the first round. Against Joshua as a late replacement he was paid more to give AJ some rounds before opening himself up to take a knockout shot.
You see in wilder what you want to see ;The worlds hardest puncher. I see a massive fraud who's too scared to step into a ring with a live body anymore.
I'm no Wilder hater. But the dude fought 90% cans. Great right, and took huge Ortiz shots, good chin. Terrible boxer but no quit in him. He has been cracked and isn't beating any top tier guys anymore.
Why do you think this? I really doubt Fury ever fights him again because he knows it's a dangerous proposition. I know more than I really wanted to about the effects of head trauma in combat sports, and can assure you that they don't just go away.
Wilder's power comes from leverage, where he is throwing it from, he needs the windup. Wilder isn't a massively strong dude, his power is all mechanics.
Fury has learned to sit down on his punches and throw from the hips. Since he did, he is a 6'9, 270 pound power puncher. Who can also box like a lightweight.
No one is beating Fury over the next few years. Wilder's windup fastball right hand may have more sting on it as a single punch, but go back and watch that trilogy. Fury is throwing bombs without huge windups and hurting Wilder over and over. When he does get a windup, he knocks Wilder off his feet with the power. Overall Fury throws the harder shots, Wilder keeps whipping his right and missing, and unless he lands it perfectly, it is not effective.
That is one thing Wilder doesn't get alot of credit for, punch placement. He lands the right flush pretty cleanly when he gets knockouts. Wilder learned to throw a fast haymaker with the right and be accurate. Any HW that throws from the fences with a good snap at the end lands on the the right spot, they can KO a guy. Wilder good at throwing a controlled haymaker. Unfortunately, it is easy to see and a good boxer will move away from that punch and break Wilder down now. I think Ruiz beats him, Zhang beats him, AJ likely knocks him out. There is a reason Wilder is pricing himself out of any real threat.
You missed Ortiz 2? Check it out; not even a hint of a windup for a haymaker on the short straight ko shot
I'm no Wilder hater. But the dude fought 90% cans. Great right, and took huge Ortiz shots, good chin. Terrible boxer but no quit in him. He has been cracked and isn't beating any top tier guys anymore.
Not originally , but according to the Fury Theory of Life, after beating Foreman , yes , he absorbed Foremans punching power , added to his own pre-fight punching power, he became a harder puncher. Here's the math proving the hypothesis.
PFP + GFPP =[ <PFP•π]2
lol - that is seriously impressive - i've never seen a mathematical equation applied to boxing. Now if you can just do the same to predict the upsets you can package it and sell for a fortune
Wilder's power comes from leverage, where he is throwing it from, he needs the windup. Wilder isn't a massively strong dude, his power is all mechanics.
Fury has learned to sit down on his punches and throw from the hips. Since he did, he is a 6'9, 270 pound power puncher. Who can also box like a lightweight.
No one is beating Fury over the next few years. Wilder's windup fastball right hand may have more sting on it as a single punch, but go back and watch that trilogy. Fury is throwing bombs without huge windups and hurting Wilder over and over. When he does get a windup, he knocks Wilder off his feet with the power. Overall Fury throws the harder shots, Wilder keeps whipping his right and missing, and unless he lands it perfectly, it is not effective.
That is one thing Wilder doesn't get alot of credit for, punch placement. He lands the right flush pretty cleanly when he gets knockouts. Wilder learned to throw a fast haymaker with the right and be accurate. Any HW that throws from the fences with a good snap at the end lands on the the right spot, they can KO a guy. Wilder good at throwing a controlled haymaker. Unfortunately, it is easy to see and a good boxer will move away from that punch and break Wilder down now. I think Ruiz beats him, Zhang beats him, AJ likely knocks him out. There is a reason Wilder is pricing himself out of any real threat.
You are missing a critical part - Wilder's 'step to' - he seems out of range to his victims but he takes a very quick step forward and THAT is what flummoxes the opponent. Like you say, the quicker more astute opponents will anticipate it - but many don't
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