Comments Thread For: Tyson Fury: I Knocked Out Deontay Wilder; I'm The Biggest Puncher In Heavyweight Boxing

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  • Willow The Wisp
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    #21
    Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07
    I'm not convinced Fury would beat Wilder again, TBH. Can't get dropped that many times by a guy that hits that hard without an effect. That's part of why I'm not convinced by Fury. He got hit clean way too much by a guy who is supposed to be one of the worst boxers in the division, with primary saving grace being generational power. If Fury is really that good, then IMO you have to give Wilder credit for being able to drop him 4 times. And if Wilder is overrated, so is Fury, who also got dropped by Cunningham.

    The Wilder hate is out of control. He's dropped everyone who's gotten in with him. Ruiz couldn't stop Arreola OR an older Ortiz than the one Wilder KOed twice. You think he can't drop Joyce who has no head movement? Or Quitter Dubois? Zhang, AJ, and Ruiz would be better fights, but to date, the evidence says he lands on them, so the question is whether they can get back up after he does, or if they can stop him before he does land. We've already seen his power carries all the way through to the end too.
    Great post. Let's think about it.
    You have a guy who has dropped everyone he's ever fought, scored 43 KOs in 43 wins, won an olympic medal, fought at least a draw against every opponent ever faced, stood in the top 2 or 3 of the division for 8 years straight, stands 6'7", has the highest KO percentage of any heavyweight titlist in history, never even thought of giving up in a fight, as at least 3 other contemporary heavyweight title holders have, never been in a boring fight, stepped against another titleholder who was top 2 in order to unify where no other heavyweight of his era did, except for that opponent, and he rematched that guy twice; and has a resume as good as any other title holder of his era when you break it down carefully..........and fangirls here are critical of him?????

    Ah-hahahahahaha!

    Joshua and Ruiz are running away from Wilder, and those casual fans the blast him from their smartphones? They'd run too.

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    • Bob
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      #22
      All you whining about this fight yet call ali the greatest, stfu!
      Ali fought a wrestler who layed on the floor & kicked Ali round after round, at least this fight is under boxing rules with someone who can actually punch.
      I will say the same about this as i did Mayweather v Mctapout, it's like the table tennis world champion taking on Federer at Tennis.

      Personally I'm more interested in Wardley Adeleye & i will watch the highlights of the night on youtube & look forward to undesputed.

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      • NorvernRob
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        #23
        Literally everything that comes out of Fury’s mouth is lies. I can’t wait until him and the rest of his idiot family are out of boxing for good.

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        • richardt
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          #24
          Simple - if they both fought 5 common opponents, I would bet all the money in my bank that the total number of rounds each guy had against the 5 common opponents would come out to far less rounds for Wilder to get the job done. There is no debate on who is the hardest puncher. It's a landslide in favor of Wilder.

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          • CPNUTKnockoutFreshMart
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            #25
            Um..excuse me Tyson , but I'm pretty sure that it doesn't work that way. Beating someone doesn't mean that you absorb their attributes. Knocking out Gary Russell Jr wouldn't mean you got his handspeed , or beating Lomachenko won't give you his footwork. Like that old lady in the commercial says " It doesn't work like that , none of this works like that ". It's not a video game , big dosser.

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            • CPNUTKnockoutFreshMart
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              #26
              Originally posted by SteveM
              I guess Ali was a bigger puncher than Foreman then?

              Not originally , but according to the Fury Theory of Life, after beating Foreman , yes , he absorbed Foremans punching power , added to his own pre-fight punching power, he became a harder puncher. Here's the math proving the hypothesis.

              PFP + GFPP =[ <PFP•π]2

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              • pollywog
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                #27
                Originally posted by Willow The Wisp

                I compare Wilder's fight against Helenius with Joshua's, and I don't see what you're claiming.
                If Wilder needs full torque and a final whiplash shoulder extension to deliver his much vaunted knockout punch clean on the button how is it a paw to the face sent his good mate sprawling to the canvas ?

                Simple answer is , Helenius took a dive in the first round. Against Joshua as a late replacement he was paid more to give AJ some rounds before opening himself up to take a knockout shot.

                You see in wilder what you want to see ;The worlds hardest puncher. I see a massive fraud who's too scared to step into a ring with a live body anymore.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07
                  I'm not convinced Fury would beat Wilder again, TBH. Can't get dropped that many times by a guy that hits that hard without an effect. That's part of why I'm not convinced by Fury. He got hit clean way too much by a guy who is supposed to be one of the worst boxers in the division, with primary saving grace being generational power. If Fury is really that good, then IMO you have to give Wilder credit for being able to drop him 4 times. And if Wilder is overrated, so is Fury, who also got dropped by Cunningham.

                  The Wilder hate is out of control. He's dropped everyone who's gotten in with him. Ruiz couldn't stop Arreola OR an older Ortiz than the one Wilder KOed twice. You think he can't drop Joyce who has no head movement? Or Quitter Dubois? Zhang, AJ, and Ruiz would be better fights, but to date, the evidence says he lands on them, so the question is whether they can get back up after he does, or if they can stop him before he does land. We've already seen his power carries all the way through to the end too.
                  Part of it is fanhood gone awry, I am a fan of 'Fighter A' so I have to downgrade all other fighters to show my love for 'Fighter A'. Part of it is pretentiousness, Wilder has poor skills and wins on natural ability, I want to show how smart I am about boxing, so I will overly hate on the guy to show that I truly care about (ergo know a lot about) boxing skill.

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                  • Kzbox
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                    #29
                    Fury just says whatever comes into his head at the time it's hilarious how people still take him so seriously after all this time it's obvious he's a wind up merchant.

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                    • naranja111
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07
                      I'm not convinced Fury would beat Wilder again, TBH. Can't get dropped that many times by a guy that hits that hard without an effect. That's part of why I'm not convinced by Fury. He got hit clean way too much by a guy who is supposed to be one of the worst boxers in the division, with primary saving grace being generational power. If Fury is really that good, then IMO you have to give Wilder credit for being able to drop him 4 times. And if Wilder is overrated, so is Fury, who also got dropped by Cunningham.

                      The Wilder hate is out of control. He's dropped everyone who's gotten in with him. Ruiz couldn't stop Arreola OR an older Ortiz than the one Wilder KOed twice. You think he can't drop Joyce who has no head movement? Or Quitter Dubois? Zhang, AJ, and Ruiz would be better fights, but to date, the evidence says he lands on them, so the question is whether they can get back up after he does, or if they can stop him before he does land. We've already seen his power carries all the way through to the end too.
                      Fury would go 10-0 versus him.

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