Comments Thread For: Tommy Fury Edges KSI By Majority Decision in Lackluster Fight

[deathofaclown]

Muhammad Ali and George Foreman, were naturally bigger fighters than Usyk 'They boiled down to their fighting weight, they did not pump themselves up to Heavyweight. Completely different era and culture within training'.

Why on earth would a heavyweight boil down? They don't have to make weight

They were very small heavyweights by todays standards. Ali had his debut at 192lbs. He was a cruiserweight. He's was a smaller man than Usyk.

Fury would run these guys over. Too big, too strong. Yeah Ali might have fiddled him around for a few rounds but when Fury got on top of him, he'd have no chance.

Big George was seen as a big heavyweight, he was 6'3" and 215lbs with slow feet and telegraphed shots and small by todays standards. He would have absolutely no chance against someone like Fury. It would look like Fury v Chisora, actually worse because Foreman was 215lbs and quite short. He would get bullied with ease.

Foreman would be one of the easiest fights of Fury's career, 100%

[PRINCEKOOL]

Why on earth would a heavyweight boil down? They don't have to make weight

They were very small heavyweights by todays standards. Ali had his debut at 192lbs. He was a cruiserweight. He's was a smaller man than Usyk.

Fury would run these guys over. Too big, too strong. Yeah Ali might have fiddled him around for a few rounds but when Fury got on top of him, he'd have no chance.

Big George was seen as a big heavyweight, he was 6'3" and 215lbs with slow feet and telegraphed shots and small by todays standards. He would have absolutely no chance against someone like Fury. It would look like Fury v Chisora, actually worse because Foreman was 215lbs and quite short. He would get bullied with ease.

Foreman would be one of the easiest fights of Fury's career, 100%

It is common knowledge that Muhammad Ali, Joe Frazier, George Foreman and many more Heavyweights during that era had to boil down to their fighting weight 'Do you think they entered training camp below 200 pounds, then had to work they way up? They boiled down to their fighting weight, and focused predominately on overall conditioning' They were actually in condition, compared to most of the Heavyweights you see within this era.

Within this modern era, it is a entirely different training culture at Heavyweight. Usyk pumps himself up, he is not naturally as big as Muhammad Ali & George Foreman 'Usyk would most likely struggled to stay at Heavyweight if he lived and trained during the 70's, within that training culture'.

Note: Like I said before? You best hope Fury beats Usyk, because Fury is one fight away from all of this mythical head to head reputation being checked big time 'Fury is ether one fight and win away from genuine greatness or his resume career being thrown into the abyss and being checked' etc.

[deathofaclown]

It is common knowledge that Muhammad Ali, Joe Frazier, George Foreman and many more Heavyweights during that era had to boil down to their fighting weight 'Do you think they entered training camp below 200 pounds, then had to work they way up? They boiled down to their fighting weight, and focused predominately on overall conditioning' They were actually in condition, compared to most of the Heavyweights you see within this era.

Within this modern era, it is a entirely different training culture at Heavyweight. Usyk pumps himself up, he is not naturally as big as Muhammad Ali & George Foreman 'Usyk would most likely struggled to stay at Heavyweight if he lived and trained during the 70's, within that training culture'.

Note: Like I said before? You best hope Fury beats Usyk, because Fury is one fight away from all of this mythical head to head reputation being checked big time 'Fury is ether one fight and win away from genuine greatness or his resume career being thrown into the abyss and being checked' etc.

He won't lose to Usyk

Which fights did you predict Fury to lose by the way? Be honest, I'm sure I could check. I'm curious to know...

[PeasantCrusha]

Tommy Fury has to be the strongest looking weaknut in boxing history. Can't crack an egg with those shoulders..

[Stuntman Mike]

Tommy Fury has to be the strongest looking weaknut in boxing history. Can't crack an egg with those shoulders..

He's not naturally that weight that's why.hes bulked himself up with steroids to his absolute limit and sometimes when fighters move up the power doesn't and I'm guessing that's the case for him ,he'd be a big puncher at whatever his natural weight would be but we'll never know as he was taking steroids before he even turned into a man and fully grown.

[billeau2]

I've seen better, more skilled fights in pub carparks.

[billeau2]

KSI with the overhand right, clinch and repeat. Tommy doesn’t seem to have any answers for it

Sure he does... move foward into shot, get hit and clinch. . he did this the entire fight.

[Smash]

tommy should send that paul guy an xmas and bday card each year for life i would say

[Stuntman Mike]

Poor Man's Foreman lol

Foreman was 217lbs in his prime and 6'3, he would be boiling down to cruiserweight if he was active today.

15 rounds yes, but they used to fight heavyweight fights at a snails pace then, especially foreman. Fury can dog fight for 12 rounds at a pace, Foreman couldn't even punch Ali for 6 rounds without blowing out of his arse and getting gassed out.

Fury is a much bigger man and can fight on the front foot, back foot, inside, outside, southpaw, orthodox, you name it. Foreman used to plod forward with slow feet and single shots.

He would lean all over Little George and even smaller Ali and maul them and stop them. Or he would just keep them on the end of a long jab with a reach they've never experienced.

It wouldnt even be competitive.

Ali was a masterclass counter puncher and had Steven hawking's level boxing iq

What counter punchers has fury beat or had to overcome that has alis natural ability,movement,defence and timing ?

Not to mention his legs

Furys names on his resume were tailor made

Wilder throws a jab and telegraphed right hand or just the single right hand and his countering ability leaves much to be desired,his kos are normally him initiating the attack.

wladimir is much the same he used offence to set up all his kos and damage and wouldn't dare throw a counter,his right hand almost always came from him initiating an attack after a thrown jab.

Who else we got???

I see fury being clumbersome and crossing his legs whilst trying to land on ali and getting countered over and over again by a laser right hand.

ali wpuld dominated fury in a boxing match and make him look ****** or if fury really went for it he would ko fury from multiple right hand counters or fury would quit on his stool.

[PRINCEKOOL]

He won't lose to Usyk

Which fights did you predict Fury to lose by the way? Be honest, I'm sure I could check. I'm curious to know...

I backed Fury to beat Deontay Wilder in the rematch, leading up to that fight 'I made many posts, stating he was going to use the same or similar tactics he used vs USS Cunningham.

Wilder III, I never back any fighter to win 100% 'I was neutral, but of course I create theories on how each fighter can win. I gave Wilder a chance, and I think I was right considering how the fight action played out'.

Many people were apprehensive during the build up to Wilder II, even most of the hardcore Fury fans 'You was quite certain about Fury winning'.

Whyte vs Fury, I backed Fury to win 'Or I wanted him to win, due to Whyte behavior during the build up'.

The only real fights that I have continually stated would be Fury's biggest Challenge stylistically, are Joshua and Usyk 'And even still Wilder I think would be able to still push Fury if the 4th fight is ever called for'.

There are not many fights were you can back the other opponent to beat Fury, because Fury is not exactly fighting top level fighters.

Fury vs Usyk ? I have not at this stage backed a fighter to win 100% 'I am just in the process of analyzing the match up, and creating theories. But I have made it clear, that even at this stage I am finding multiple ways in which Usyk can win against this version of Fury'.

You was on the actual thread, were I made this post 'The post may have actually been in response to one of your posts'.

Note: So Wilder III, most likely that was the fight were I was closest to backing Fury to lose. But I did state that I was neutral, on the eve of the fight.

When stated that I am neutral, it is because? Sometimes I don't want to see a fighter lose 'I actually did not want to see Fury lose that fight'. I could easily picked a winner or back somebody to win, but I will purposely hold back 'The last fight were I was in this situation was Smith vs Eubank Junior II'.

Overall Fury really is not involved in fights were he is challenged stylistically in my opinion, that is how he has been promoted and managed 'He will only take on big fights when he really has to, and we are kind of at that stage of his career again' etc.