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  • garfios
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    #41
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

    GGG1 was a draw , Canelo wasn’t given a win.

    GGG2 was a close fight that Canelo rightfully won IMO.

    Lara was a close fight that Canelo rightfully won IMO.

    Floyd got the victory, Canelo wasn’t given a win.

    Trout was a clear Canelo win as he even dropped him to remove any doubt.

    Bivol got the victory, Canelo wasn’t given a win.
    There was nothing rightfully about those fights scorecards, you asked for it. He dropped trout because he knew he was getting screwed and went for it, which was not his game, there are many ways to handicap a boxing match. The guy is a fraud, how many times are you going to excuse him, almost all his big fights he has an advantage from the get go.

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    • boxingitis
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      #42
      Originally posted by garfios

      What are you talking about? I haven't heard nor read bivol begging for a fight. Actually, he sent off canelo and his ridiculous offer away, and ginger was happy to obliged, ginger beg him to not agree, that was the only begging, done by your idol ginger the fraud.
      Just before the Charlo fight he posted in Twitter he wanted Canelo at 168 for Undisputed. I don't hear he wants Zurdo again at Cruiserweight. Bivol has never fought in another weight class, has never unified, let alone Undisputed. If he so great he should be shooting for Undisputed at 175. He is looking for PAY DAY PAY DAY. Atleast Canelo has the courage to move in weight class, something Bivol has never done.

      The ginger fraud you claim has the best Resume in Boxing. Imagine the other boxers, weak.
      Last edited by boxingitis; 10-14-2023, 06:34 PM.

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      • just the facts
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        #43
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

        Canelo publicly stated that he wanted the rematch, he then tried to negotiate the rematch, then publicly stated that Bivol was making rematch negotiations difficult, then finally made a public statement that he was moving on after having tried hard to make the rematch.

        That is all verifiable.

        Canelo wanting to depend on crooked scorecards (name all these supposed fights that Canelo won when he actually should have lost) is not verifiable and made up on your part.
        Oh, Canelo publicly stated that. Why didn’t you say so? Must be true Canelo said it. You can’t be that dumb. The rematch didn’t happen because Canelo didn’t want it.

        Crooked scorecards:

        1. vs Trout. An honest scorecard would have been 116-113 (8-4, with a Canelo KD) Canelo. Yet one judge scored 118-109 (10-2) Canelo. CROOKED SCORECARD!

        2. vs Floyd. An honest scorecard would have 118-110 or 117-111 (10-2 or 9-3) Floyd. Yet one judge scored it a draw (6-6). CROOKED SCORECARD!

        3. vs Lara. An honest scorecard would have been 115-113 (7-5) Canelo. Yet one judge had it 117-111 (9-3) Canelo. CROOKED SCORECARD!

        4. vs GGG 1. An honest scorecard would have been 116-112 (8-4) GGG. Yet one Judge had it 118-110 (10-2) Canelo. CROOKED SCORECARD! Another judge had it 114-114 (6-6). CROOKED SCORECARD! Another judge had it 115-113 (7-5) GGG. CROOKED SCORECARD!

        5. vs Bivol. An honest scorecard would have been 118-110 or 117-111 (10-2 or 9-3) Bivol. All three judges had it 115-113 (7-5) Bivol. All CROOKED SCORECARDS!

        Question for you. Can you name even one fighter that has benefited from crooked scorecards more than Canelo has?

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        • garfios
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          #44
          Originally posted by boxingitis

          Just before the Charlo fight he posted in Twitter he wanted Canelo at 168 for Undisputed. I don't hear he wants Zurdo again at Cruiserweight. Bivol has never fought in another weight class, has never unified, let alone Undisputed. If he so great he should be shooting for Undisputed at 175. He is looking for PAY DAY PAY DAY. Atleast Canelo has the courage to move in weight class, something Bivol has never done.

          The ginger fraud you claim has the best Resume in Boxing. Imagine the other boxers, weak.
          And that is the time we live in. People following a fraud that every time he fights a good to elite boxer, he loses or get a gift. So he has to go back to the usual suspects, undersized, domestic level British and journeyman. That's your idol.

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          • MastaBlasta
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            #45
            Originally posted by boxingitis
            Bivol only begs Canelo for a rematch. Wounder why?

            Bivol should only be trying to fight Beterbiev.
            Ummm, they've been trying ... for years.

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            • MastaBlasta
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              #46
              Originally posted by just the facts

              Poor Bivol. He thought that if he agreed to go to 168 for a rematch, Canelo would have the testicular fortitude to rematch him. Who passes on a chance to avenge a loss and handicap your opponent at the same time? Canelo, that’s who.
              Canelo is waiting until Bivol gets vulnerable. Maybe age starts catching him, or someone upsets him badly, or Beterbiev busts him up bad. Then Canelo will be ready to fight Bivol again .... in whatever division.

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              • just the facts
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                #47
                Originally posted by MastaBlasta

                Canelo is waiting until Bivol gets vulnerable. Maybe age starts catching him, or someone upsets him badly, or Beterbiev busts him up bad. Then Canelo will be ready to fight Bivol again .... in whatever division.
                I honestly don’t think Canelo will ever rematch Bivol. He knows he can’t/won’t/didn’t beat Bivol.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by garfios

                  There was nothing rightfully about those fights scorecards, you asked for it. He dropped trout because he knew he was getting screwed and went for it, which was not his game, there are many ways to handicap a boxing match. The guy is a fraud, how many times are you going to excuse him, almost all his big fights he has an advantage from the get go.
                  I asked you what fights Canelo won that he shouldn’t have. And as usual it all boils down to one or two close fights that could have gone either way, much ado about nothing.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by just the facts

                    Oh, Canelo publicly stated that. Why didn’t you say so? Must be true Canelo said it. You can’t be that dumb. The rematch didn’t happen because Canelo didn’t want it.

                    Crooked scorecards:

                    1. vs Trout. An honest scorecard would have been 116-113 (8-4, with a Canelo KD) Canelo. Yet one judge scored 118-109 (10-2) Canelo. CROOKED SCORECARD!

                    2. vs Floyd. An honest scorecard would have 118-110 or 117-111 (10-2 or 9-3) Floyd. Yet one judge scored it a draw (6-6). CROOKED SCORECARD!

                    3. vs Lara. An honest scorecard would have been 115-113 (7-5) Canelo. Yet one judge had it 117-111 (9-3) Canelo. CROOKED SCORECARD!

                    4. vs GGG 1. An honest scorecard would have been 116-112 (8-4) GGG. Yet one Judge had it 118-110 (10-2) Canelo. CROOKED SCORECARD! Another judge had it 114-114 (6-6). CROOKED SCORECARD! Another judge had it 115-113 (7-5) GGG. CROOKED SCORECARD!

                    5. vs Bivol. An honest scorecard would have been 118-110 or 117-111 (10-2 or 9-3) Bivol. All three judges had it 115-113 (7-5) Bivol. All CROOKED SCORECARDS!

                    Question for you. Can you name even one fighter that has benefited from crooked scorecards more than Canelo has?
                    Trout: The right guy won so the scorecards meant nothing.

                    Floyd: The right guy won so the scorecards meant nothing.

                    Lara: It was close and Lara stunk out the joint. The right guy won in my opinion.

                    GGG 1: Canelo was not declared the winner. It was officially ruled a draw. The fight was close but Golovkin maybe should have edged it. This is what all the ”benefitted from crooked scorecards” complaints really boil down to, one single fight in Canelo’s entire career.

                    Bivol: The right guy won so the scorecards meant nothing.

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                    • garfios
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

                      I asked you what fights Canelo won that he shouldn’t have. And as usual it all boils down to one or two close fights that could have gone either way, much ado about nothing.
                      Lara and ggg 1. Lara make him look like an electrical fan hitting nothing but air, most of the bodywork was on the guard, cleanest punches and controlling the pace and ring belonged to Lara, just like ggg1.
                      ps. Watch the fight without sound and score it yourself. Be honest. We know was a robbery because one judge saw Lara win two rounds when in reality should have been a clear decision for EL.
                      Last edited by garfios; 10-14-2023, 10:38 PM.

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