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  • #71
    Originally posted by just the facts View Post

    More agenda driven bu!!shyte. The fact remains, there has never been a professional fighter that has benefited from crooked scorecards more than Canelo has.
    I just gave you an example of one, Sugar Ray Leonard.

    Oscar De La Hoya is another.

    Your “facts” are just whack, agenda-driven bullsh1t.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by boxingitis View Post

      Also Black Americans like Trout, Jacobs, Kirland, and Caleb Plant. Again he still has the best Resume, he beat all the Champion at 168. What's you excuse. He cleaned the divison in less than 12 month, but since you are hater you will find something negative.
      They gave Canelo the Trout victory over a late knockdown, Trout still could have got the decision overall. Kirkland was shot, completely out of shape, and mothballed when they fought. Jacobs only went through the motions (he wanted the payday) but yeah Canelo won ... but nothing substantial happened in the fight either way. They could have even given it to Jacobs. Caleb Plant has lost at every major opportunity besides fighting Dirrell (after Dirrell had previously retired).

      Canelo's record is mostly pedestrian. Close biased decisions or a loss in most major fights, but not all. No KO's vs prepared worthy opponents (minus shot Kovalev and a rusty BJ Saunders). Lots of catch-weight-bully fights, and re-hydrated weight-bully fights, etc. In his only fights where the opponent was top shelf, prepared, and not shot .... he lost (Mayweather (who was pretty old at that point) and Bivol). those are almost his only noteworthy fights besides the controversies with GGG.

      He's very solid but his record is mostly good, opportunistic match-making. That said I'd still like to see Canelo fight Pascal (who unfortunately is about at the end of his career too).
      Last edited by MastaBlasta; 10-20-2023, 11:43 PM.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by boxingitis View Post
        Bivol only begs Canelo for a rematch. Wounder why?

        Bivol should only be trying to fight Beterbiev.
        Begs? Really?

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Vlad_ View Post
          Begs? Really?
          Yup, he posted on Twitter he was willing to fight Canelo at 168 for all the titles. Why doesn't he just post he wants the Beterbiev fight for Undisputed?

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          • #75
            Originally posted by boxingitis View Post

            Yup, he posted on Twitter he was willing to fight Canelo at 168 for all the titles. Why doesn't he just post he wants the Beterbiev fight for Undisputed?
            He does. He's been calling for that fight since at least 2019. Ring had an article about how that's the goal for him in April, but Bob Arum saying he won't make the fight doesn't make for a good likelihood of the fight being made.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post

              He does. He's been calling for that fight since at least 2019. Ring had an article about how that's the goal for him in April, but Bob Arum saying he won't make the fight doesn't make for a good likelihood of the fight being made.
              Hearn can send a good offer that they wont want to reject.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by boxingitis View Post

                Hearn can send a good offer that they wont want to reject.
                Bob Arum says he won't make the fight and won't work with Eddie Hearn, but was willing to do so for Callum Smith, probably because they could win a purse bid and freeze Matchroom out. With a unification? I don't think any offer is big enough, short of taking Bivol for Top Rank. He's only got one fight left on his contract if memory serves. His best bet is to hope Callum Smith can beat Beterbiev so he can have an in house unification.
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                • #78
                  Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post

                  Bob Arum says he won't make the fight and won't work with Eddie Hearn, but was willing to do so for Callum Smith, probably because they could win a purse bid and freeze Matchroom out. With a unification? I don't think any offer is big enough, short of taking Bivol for Top Rank. He's only got one fight left on his contract if memory serves. His best bet is to hope Callum Smith can beat Beterbiev so he can have an in house unification.
                  Bivol couldn't make the Canelo or the Beterbiev fight? or any fight at all. So what is the comon problem? Bivol. Don't say ducking, because even Shakur got a fight.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by boxingitis View Post

                    Bivol couldn't make the Canelo or the Beterbiev fight? or any fight at all. So what is the comon problem? Bivol. Don't say ducking, because even Shakur got a fight.
                    Well, let's see. We've got Canelo turning down options for a catchweight and a rehydration clause even. You REALLY think if Canelo wanted the rematch it wouldn't be happening?

                    Beterbiev fight isn't happening because Beterbiev's own promoter said specifically he wouldn't make it. How is that Bivol's fault?

                    Oh, and the WBC won't sanction it. Again, how's that Bivol's fault?
                    ​​​​​​https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...tions-wbc-says

                    Buatsi turned down a 1.5 million dollar offer to fight him. Said he "wasn't ready".
                    https://www.skysports.com/boxing/new...-has-to-happen

                    Yet again, if you can't see the answer, the problem is you.

                    https://www.boxingnewsonline.net/gro...want-to-fight/

                    Teddy Atlas explains why NO ONE wants to FIGHT Dmitry Bivol. - YouTube

                    https://*************/watch?v=HxESUnizgVs

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                    • #80
                      At the end of the day, why not? Bivol has done like nothing in 2023, no fight on a horizon, other contenders are not ready, so Bivol should take the fight, at 175 of course.

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