I doubt Usyk would be 2 division champion in any other era

[JakeTheBoxer]

Klitschko bros were beating cruiserweights like nothing.

Usyk was born in the right era. There is nobody around except some English bums, one Croat, fat Mexican - American and old Chinese guy.

Usyk is a lucky man. Big guys would beat him badly in any other era.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Usyk's best chance of capturing a World title, may have actually been in the Kiltschko era 'I think Usyk would really struggled in any other era before then'.

David Haye was my fighter, but that would be Usyk's best chance of winning a World title 'But at his peak, I would back Haye to beat Uysk'.

Within this boxing era? I rate Usyk extremely highly, Usyk is the most accomplished active boxer in the entire sport of boxing.

The reason why, I think it would be difficult for Usyk to win a World title in other era's is because 'Although I rate him very highly, he quite simply has a limited inside game or has not really shown much of a inside game as of yet'.

Skill for skill Usyk has been good enough so far at Heavyweight, to beat these Super Heavyweights basically at their own game 'Usyk has been beating Heavyweights with his long range to mid-range game'.

No classically styled physiqued Heavyweight was able to beat Lennox Lewis at his own game, the same goes for Wladimir Kiltschko or any all-time great Super Heavyweight 'Fighters were forced to ether become ambush fighters, pressure fighters or maximized their inside game'.

Usyk is in some ways is exploiting these heavyweights with this era, their overall conditioning and endurance levels 'And that has been enough so far, but in other era's I think Usyk would of needed more punching power and a more advanced inside game';.

Tyson Fury is not going to be able to out box Usyk, never-mind Fury's dimensions 'I actually think in some aspects they will work against him. Uysk has better movement, and skill for skill he a superior fighter with his mid-long range game. Especially this version of Fury, stylistically this 20 + pounds Heavier version of Fury compared to 'The Riddler' 2015, this current version of Fury is a better stylistic match up for Usyk.

Note: Fury I also think would struggle in other eras, far too clumsy 'Skill for skill overrated in many area's, but? Tyson Fury to his credit gives it a good go in all area's, and he does have a inside game. Fury would be able to compete in past era's, but I honestly don't think he would be a dominant Champion. There is no evidence for this, Fury is not a dominant Champion now 'Lennox Lewis, Wladimir Kiltschko, Mike Tyson, Vitali Kiltschko, these are pretty much the last dominant Heavyweight Champions'.

Winning one big fight here and there, many years apart and then fighting in and around domestic to European level 'Is not being a dominant Champion, that is what Tyson Fury has been doing as a Champion and since his win vs Kiltschko' etc.

[Kzbox]

Have you ever said anything positive about any boxer? you have to be the biggest hater i have ever seen on this forum "boxing fan" yeah okay buddy.

[The D3vil]

Man, Vlad lost to Corrie Sanders, Ross Purrity, and struggled with Bryant Jennings at the end of his reign.

Vitaly quit against Byrd

Why y'all acting like Usyk aint better than those folks

[satiev1]

klitschko bros were beating cruiserweights like nothing.

Usyk was born in the right era. There is nobody around except some english bums, one croat, fat mexican - american and old chinese guy.

Usyk is a lucky man. Big guys would beat him badly in any other era.

you have a valid point. He would be cw champ but hw would be harder

[NEETzschean]

"Klitschko bros were beating cruiserweights like nothing."

Vitali quit against a blown-up LHW, who he couldn't put a dent in over 9 rounds. Usyk schooled Wlad in sparring. K2 fought far inferior cruisers to Usyk. Haye was quick, agile and very powerful but didn't have anything like Usyk's footwork, boxing brain, stamina, mentality or chin, hence Haye ducked Steve Cunningham at cruiser.

"There is nobody around except some English bums, one Croat, fat Mexican - American and old Chinese guy."

You're so unintelligent that you can't see your point is entirely self-defeating: in most previous eras it was basically an American national championship. We have a far more diverse and talented global era today.

"Usyk is a lucky man. Big guys would beat him badly in any other era."

"Big guys" were small in most other eras, Usyk would be huge in the 70's. And no past heavies save Holyfield fought any world level southpaws, with Holyfield losing three times and winning once. Usyk would be a dominant champion in every other era save this one and maybe the Klitschko era (if Wlad were allowed to clinch Usyk incessantly).

[JakeTheBoxer]

Man, Vlad lost to Corrie Sanders, Ross Purrity, and struggled with Bryant Jennings at the end of his reign.

Vitaly quit against Byrd

Why y'all acting like Usyk aint better than those folks

Vlad has been undefeated champion for about 10 years before Fury beat him. Learn something casual.

[dan-b]

Have you ever said anything positive about any boxer? you have to be the biggest hater i have ever seen on this forum "boxing fan" yeah okay buddy.

He gets very defensive over Bivol.

[deathofaclown]

Samuel Peter was a champ in the Wlad era, as was Valuev. Usyk would beat both. Let's not forget Maskaev too.

Even the era slightly before that , you had guys like Herbie Hide and Byrd holding a title. But Usyk couldn't?

John Ruiz was WBA champion going back a few years earlier, Bruce Seldon was.

Frank Bruno was WBC champ in the 90s

You can keep going back further and find loads of champions that Usyk would whoop.

People overrated past eras way too much...

[deathofaclown]

"Klitschko bros were beating cruiserweights like nothing."

Vitali quit against a blown-up LHW, who he couldn't put a dent in over 9 rounds. ).

Vitali had a heart the size of a pea. He literally asked to be pulled out of that fight because his shoulder was hurting

look at so many great warriors over the years, right up until recently with Fury and Wilder knocking each other senseless, can you imagine them asking their corner to stop the fight because of a bad shoulder? Wilder proved was willing to go out of the fight flat on his face rather than his corner stop a fight..let alone ASK his corner to stop it. That's a real warrior.

I saw Danny Williams fight on with his arm literally out of its socket and win

Not heavyweight but George Groves schooled Eubank with one arm for a round with one of the worst shoulder dislocations you will see.

But big bad Vitali asked to stop the fight because of sore shoulder.

Vitali wouldn't have the heart or minerals to beat the likes of Usyk or Fury who take fighters to deep waters and test their mentality.