Between 154-175, only Bivol can beat Canelo

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  • Silence
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    #1

    Between 154-175, only Bivol can beat Canelo

    If Canelo has good gameplan, he can beat Bivol as well. But, he is too big, mobile and stylistic issue. Canelo needs his best.

    ​​​​​Benavidez, Beterbiev and Badou Jack are fighting like caveman. Don't even mention them.

    Canelo is ***in hard to beat if he calls his A-game. He is the ultimate combination of high level talent, skill and dedication.
  • BodyBagz
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    #2
    I'm torn
    Not a fan of Nelo 168+
    But he can handle himself up there.
    Also, Biv did not dominate Nelo.
    Nelo was just not active enough, and he knows it.
    Pretty sure he will correct that in the rematch

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    • AKAcronym
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      #3
      Originally posted by BodyBagz
      I'm torn
      Not a fan of Nelo 168+
      But he can handle himself up there.
      Also, Biv did not dominate Nelo.
      Nelo was just not active enough, and he knows it.
      Pretty sure he will correct that in the rematch
      It'll take everything he has to match what Bivol was doing comfortably. And what happens when Bivol steps it up another gear? It'll most likely end up like the first fight. We've been hearing about the stamina issues for how many years now? and yet we're still talking about it. Canelo will always have average stamina and he's fought too long to improve it significantly enough. He's thrown less than 500 against Callum, Bivol, Golovkin 3 and Ryder and would've thrown significantly less against Plant if it went all 12 and threw less than 400 against Charlo. Definitely looks like he has a ceiling at 168 and above.
      Last edited by AKAcronym; 10-04-2023, 12:22 PM.

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      • IronDanHamza
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        #4
        Beterbiev beats him.

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        • Silence
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          #5
          Originally posted by BodyBagz
          I'm torn
          Not a fan of Nelo 168+
          But he can handle himself up there.
          Also, Biv did not dominate Nelo.
          Nelo was just not active enough, and he knows it.
          Pretty sure he will correct that in the rematch
          He definitely should fight Artur after beats Crawford and Benavidez. Much easier style with much more belts at 175.

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          • ProblemChild_JakePaul
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            #6
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza
            Beterbiev beats him.
            Agreed!

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            • mike1010011
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              #7
              Originally posted by Silence
              If Canelo has good gameplan, he can beat Bivol as well. But, he is too big, mobile and stylistic issue. Canelo needs his best.

              ​​​​​Benavidez, Beterbiev and Badou Jack are fighting like caveman. Don't even mention them.

              Canelo is ***in hard to beat if he calls his A-game. He is the ultimate combination of high level talent, skill and dedication.
              Bivol isn't too big, he has the same dimensions as Charlo,both in reach and height. He's not super mobile either,he just manages the distance incredibly well,and has great in and out movement. It terms of styles,bivol is just incredibly defensively responsible,and has a great mastery of the basics. Great defence and a solid jab are Canelos kryptonite. No idea why Jack is even being mentioned. He's about 40 years old and at 200 lbs,and has already turned down Canelos catch weight/rehydration clause offer. As for David,the dude is there to be hit,but you best believe that he's going to be throwing leather back at you. What I find crazy is just how many people are honestly overlooking artur. The dude is far from being a caveman. He hits like a sledgehammer and can box very well when he needs to. A caveman doesn't beat gvozdyk like he did (who is a great boxer himself). Artur is bigger,stronger, can box,and has fight ending power in both hands. Canelo won't be able to walk him down. If Canelo decided to box,he's going to need to deal with the pressure for 12 rounds against a guy who hurts light heavyweights through their guard. And if he makes the mistake and decides to trade with him,he's going to be carried out on a stretcher the moment artur clips him.

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              • Willow The Wisp
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                #8
                Originally posted by Silence
                If Canelo has good gameplan, he can beat Bivol as well. But, he is too big, mobile and stylistic issue. Canelo needs his best.

                ​​​​​Benavidez, Beterbiev and Badou Jack are fighting like caveman. Don't even mention them.

                Canelo is ***in hard to beat if he calls his A-game. He is the ultimate combination of high level talent, skill and dedication.
                I'm OK with that. Still, some tough fights there.

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                • BodyBagz
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by AKAcronym

                  It'll take everything he has to match what Bivol was doing comfortably. And what happens when Bivol steps it up another gear? It'll most likely end up like the first fight. We've been hearing about the stamina issues for how many years now? and yet we're still talking about it. Canelo will always have average stamina and he's fought too long to improve it significantly enough. He's thrown less than 500 against Callum, Bivol, Golovkin 3 and Ryder and would've thrown significantly less against Plant if it went all 12 and threw less than 400 against Charlo. Definitely looks like he has a ceiling at 168 and above.
                  Nelo is so flawed, I can't remember if he's ever been hurt or dominated (except vs May)
                  I'm sticking with Nelo making the correct adjustments and do better in the rematch.
                  If it's at 168, Nelo wins vs all these ''boogeymen''.

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                  • elfag
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                    #10
                    canelo is never fighting at 154 or 160 again dude. and hes the A side so he wont even fight below 168

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