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  • #81
    Originally posted by TheWinners View Post

    Usually these weak responses are due to someone not buying into your bias bs. It's " defending" and emotional. This is a forum clown.

    So size and reach don't matter? What's your point. Obviously Canelo was the superior fighter because of his ring IQ. That's what wins his fights. He doesn't dominate due to any size advantage. Because he gives that up at the higher weights.


    Sorry you can't comprehend this and it's " emotional " clowns lol. You know unlike a bunch of you girlie ******* on here I go get active. You know workout, lift weights, train. Put the keyboard and controllers down and you wouldn't think every time someone challenges your simple mindsets that it's emotional lmao.
    You're the one who initiated a large portion of the insults in this thread and as you probably know insults are only spewed out by emotionally triggered people... You do the maths!

    Obviously there's instances of both where height/reach or boxing IQ are superior enough attributes to earn a fighter the win but to say that Canelo lost to Bivol due to size is simply not true - as I said their reach dimensions were pretty similar and there wouldn't have been much in their ring weights. Canelo lost that fight because he wasn't jabbing or feinting, had slow feet and expended most of his energy by loading up with single power shots to the point where he had nothing left physically and mentally for Bivol.
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    • #82
      Originally posted by TheWinners View Post

      It's called having a brain which I've figured you don't.

      Think of the reason you brainless turd. Why was he better? There's a mental and physical aspect. If a fighter has the physical advantages vs someone with similar boxing IQ, who wins? Smart money is on the fighter with the physical edge.

      He fought someone in Bivol with similar boxing IQ but who also had the physical advantage. Almost every fighter Canelo fought from 160-175 had the physical advantage. Canelo had higher boxing IQ. He didn't have that advantage vs Bivol. And his physical limitations affected the outcome.

      You're just too simple to understand this.


      you non boxing dudes who like to pretend that you know what you’re talking about crack me up. Canelo’s limitations have always been his low punch output and poor stamina in late rounds. He was able to mask that with his opponent selection for example, passive Brits and old men who didn’t force him to fight at a fast pace. Bivol didn’t impose his height or size on him. He was busy, didn’t let Canelo rest and fired back at him every time Canelo threw one of his typical 2 punch combos. He also didn’t let Canelo just move him into the ropes with his footwork the way those other guys did. He outskilled and out hustled him. If you want to see size making a difference in a fight, watch Canelo vs khan or Canelo vs Cotto. Vs bivol, canelo just wasn’t good enough. Not too small. What is too small however, is your brain. You non boxing knowing clown.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by El_Mero View Post

        Where tf do you think hed ever move down? Who even mentioned that? How slow are you?
        Well, if Canelo doesn't move down to fight Khan, then Khan moves us, right??? WTH are we talking about? You keep going on about Canelo 'dragging' Khan up in weight to get an advantage. What imaginary weight where neither guys goes up or down did you think they would fight at? No weight?

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        • #84
          Originally posted by TheWinners View Post

          He is too small for 175. Why tf is this hard to grasp? He's ****ing 5'7 which is about the height of a welterweight. He gives up reach and size in every fight from 160-175. His equalizer is boxing IQ and punching power. He also has a granite chin.

          I get it. Idk if its the ****ing drugs or what. Why cant you simple minded mfs understand that although height is not the definitive factor in weight classes that there are average heights in each? And when you fight well below those averages you are at a physical disadvantage. That's why Mayweather won't go fight Deontay Wilder. He could box his socks off. But he would be at every physical disadvantage that his superior mental advantage would be worthless.

          Height and reach matter! Canelo is a ****ing tiny 160-175 lb fighter.
          First, I wish with all my heart that I could meet you in person, so you can call me mfs right on my face, but I know you would never say that to any man in front of you, so I'm going to answer your ******ity just once, weight divisions in boxing, I don't know why you little sob's don't grasp the meaning that WEIGHT DIVISIONS ARE BY WEIGHT, NOT FU$ING HEIGHT, he already fought at 175 and won, he didn't lose to bivol because the weight or the height, he lost because bivol is better, he has fought taller guys before like plant, jacobs etc. If he is not big enough, why not fight at ww or lightweight? By the way, when you drain all your opponents, you the one with the advantage, not the taller guy. Again you mot45ker, it is call weight division for a reason, not heigh/reach division. Ask him to go down to ww and get his **** out of your A$$ so you can think properly and stop writing nonsense, the only thing tiny here is your **** because you have a big A$$hole.
          Last edited by garfios; 09-30-2023, 10:47 AM.
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          • #85
            Originally posted by TheOneAboveAll View Post

            Well, if Canelo doesn't move down to fight Khan, then Khan moves us, right??? WTH are we talking about? You keep going on about Canelo 'dragging' Khan up in weight to get an advantage. What imaginary weight where neither guys goes up or down did you think they would fight at? No weight?
            How bout fight guys in his own weight class? How bout fighting the guy everyone wants him to fight at smw, you know, his mandatory the last 2 years?
            How bout quit being a ddiva and fight Bivol at 168 (he said hed come down)? How bout the CONmans cheeleaders quit worshipping this b!tchmove of fighting a guy whos been out the ring over a year?

            But do you....nice skirt btw
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            • #86
              Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post
              It was not crazy because it was an obvious cherry pick.
              And he’s again claiming he jumped two weight classes like he wasn’t the WBA Regular champ at 168 already


              and wasn’t he just trying to boil Badou down to 180?
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              • #87
                Originally posted by Elastic Recoilz View Post

                You're the one who initiated a large portion of the insults in this thread and as you probably know insults are only spewed out by emotionally triggered people... You do the maths!

                Obviously there's instances of both where height/reach or boxing IQ are superior enough attributes to earn a fighter the win but to say that Canelo lost to Bivol due to size is simply not true - as I said their reach dimensions were pretty similar and there wouldn't have been much in their ring weights. Canelo lost that fight because he wasn't jabbing or feinting, had slow feet and expended most of his energy by loading up with single power shots to the point where he had nothing left physically and mentally for Bivol.
                I'll disagree there. He did do those things you mentioned. However I think the size difference was significant enough to affect the fight. He was fighting a top 175 lb fighter and he couldn't impose his will with his power or boxing ability. Basically his shots didn't affect Bivol. You don't think him fighting a bigger man played a role in punch resistance?

                Interesting though that you talk about ring weights. Which will be disregarded in reference to Charlo vs Canelo. If Charlo weighs the same, is taller, and has reach advantage but he loses its because Canelo had the obvious advantages. However vs Bivol the size difference is insignificant and it was Canelo's boxing deficiencies.



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                • #88
                  Originally posted by garfios View Post

                  First, I wish with all my heart that I could meet you in person, so you can call me mfs right on my face, but I know you would never say that to any man in front of you, so I'm going to answer your ******ity just once, weight divisions in boxing, I don't know why you little sob's don't grasp the meaning that WEIGHT DIVISIONS ARE BY WEIGHT, NOT FU$ING HEIGHT, he already fought at 175 and won, he didn't lose to bivol because the weight or the height, he lost because bivol is better, he has fought taller guys before like plant, jacobs etc. If he is not big enough, why not fight at ww or lightweight? By the way, when you drain all your opponents, you the one with the advantage, not the taller guy. Again you mot45ker, it is call weight division for a reason, not heigh/reach division. Ask him to go down to ww and get his **** out of your A$$ so you can think properly and stop writing nonsense, the only thing tiny here is your **** because you have a big A$$hole.
                  I guarantee you with all my heart I probably wouldn't call you mfs. I'd call you a b**** ass mf. I won't address nothing else you said p*****

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Post
                    you non boxing dudes who like to pretend that you know what you’re talking about crack me up. Canelo’s limitations have always been his low punch output and poor stamina in late rounds. He was able to mask that with his opponent selection for example, passive Brits and old men who didn’t force him to fight at a fast pace. Bivol didn’t impose his height or size on him. He was busy, didn’t let Canelo rest and fired back at him every time Canelo threw one of his typical 2 punch combos. He also didn’t let Canelo just move him into the ropes with his footwork the way those other guys did. He outskilled and out hustled him. If you want to see size making a difference in a fight, watch Canelo vs khan or Canelo vs Cotto. Vs bivol, canelo just wasn’t good enough. Not too small. What is too small however, is your brain. You non boxing knowing clown.
                    Canelo being 5'8 and fighting a 6 ft master boxer who knew how to control range definitely was a difference. You don't think his 4 in height advantage didn't affect Canelos ability to land clean? Why was he hitting him in his arms? Bivol actually gave him those shots as Canelo basically opted against trying to find a harder target. Bivol laughed because those punches didn't affect him.

                    Did you ever in your simple life watch Bivol fight before he fought Canelo? Probably not. You guys are bringing up other tall fighters who did not have Bivols boxing ability. Idgaf about Callum Smith or whatever hyped up Brit he fought. Those guys weren't on Bivols level and it's not close.

                    Youre just a bias nut rider. That **** is a mental illness what you got. You know if Canelo wins its every reason in the world besides skill. He had all the advantages and paid the judges. But if he loses he just wasn't good enough. Maybe you aren't as ****** as much as you are mental.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by TheWinners View Post

                      I guarantee you with all my heart I probably wouldn't call you mfs. I'd call you a b**** ass mf. I won't address nothing else you said p*****
                      It's guaranteed that you wouldn't have enough time. Be safe

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