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Originally posted by Jab jab boom View PostI’m not reading 4 paragraphs of your female like rant. Read up to the 2nd and stopped as you’re too dumb to realize that there’s weight classes in boxing, not height classes. He didn’t lose to Bivol because he was shorter or even lighter, he lost because he wasn’t good enough. So fk you and his excuses.
Think of the reason you brainless turd. Why was he better? There's a mental and physical aspect. If a fighter has the physical advantages vs someone with similar boxing IQ, who wins? Smart money is on the fighter with the physical edge.
He fought someone in Bivol with similar boxing IQ but who also had the physical advantage. Almost every fighter Canelo fought from 160-175 had the physical advantage. Canelo had higher boxing IQ. He didn't have that advantage vs Bivol. And his physical limitations affected the outcome.
You're just too simple to understand this.
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Originally posted by TheWinners View Post
It's called having a brain which I've figured you don't.
Think of the reason you brainless turd. Why was he better? There's a mental and physical aspect. If a fighter has the physical advantages vs someone with similar boxing IQ, who wins? Smart money is on the fighter with the physical edge.
He fought someone in Bivol with similar boxing IQ but who also had the physical advantage. Almost every fighter Canelo fought from 160-175 had the physical advantage. Canelo had higher boxing IQ. He didn't have that advantage vs Bivol. And his physical limitations affected the outcome.
You're just too simple to understand this.
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Originally posted by garfios View Post
First, you're showing your true colors by saying I'm racist that I hate all Latin boxers, and that I'm mad because Lara was robbed, I was disappointed, but it was not canelo's fault, although there's a pattern. The truth is that you are one of his fans who after he beat kovalev were saying he could beat up berteviev and usyk, you all got wet with that thought, you would never find a post by me stating that any Cuban would be dominating boxing, not 9-0, 15-0 or 100-0. You're lying again, it could be that you are 12yo or canelo is paying you to write this nonsense, the smallest LHW has been, off the top of my head Qawi, do you know who was smaller, **** Tiger, the 5'8" listed is wrong, he was a couple of inches shorter. So after the bivol fight all the excuses came out and the one you're repeating most is, yeah, the "smaller" ginger, but get this he is fighting a guy two weight divisions below, and he still the smaller fighter. Do you really think what you write? Now you're bringing a whole community into your babbling and ******ity. My opinion has no weight on my fellow Countrymen nor their preferences, I know a few who are canelo's fans, but they're not going around telling people the nonsense you're saying, they know boxing a few of them are following boxing for over 60 years just like my self, and they know he has the advantages all the time, but they like his boxing, the difference is that unlike you, they do not try to excuse him nor defend him when he did what he tried to with Jack, so he is too small for 175 but wants to fight a cruiser weight, remember those days not long ago? You're mentioning that him facing bivol is like bivol facing a cruiser, no it not the same, bivol has never fought a CW, just like canelo won a belt at LHW, my advice to you is, if you are ever in front of a Judge, don't speak, let your lawyer do the talking.
I get it. Idk if its the ****ing drugs or what. Why cant you simple minded mfs understand that although height is not the definitive factor in weight classes that there are average heights in each? And when you fight well below those averages you are at a physical disadvantage. That's why Mayweather won't go fight Deontay Wilder. He could box his socks off. But he would be at every physical disadvantage that his superior mental advantage would be worthless.
Height and reach matter! Canelo is a ****ing tiny 160-175 lb fighter.
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Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet View Post
I did not read It, you dont know about boxing and i give you a lesson with facts.
Ah...
And remember.
Only canelos career have More value than the whole history of cuban boxing and he is better than any pro cuban boxer in history.
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Originally posted by TheWinners View Post
He is too small for 175. Why tf is this hard to grasp? He's ****ing 5'7 which is about the height of a welterweight. He gives up reach and size in every fight from 160-175. His equalizer is boxing IQ and punching power. He also has a granite chin.
I get it. Idk if its the ****ing drugs or what. Why cant you simple minded mfs understand that although height is not the definitive factor in weight classes that there are average heights in each? And when you fight well below those averages you are at a physical disadvantage. That's why Mayweather won't go fight Deontay Wilder. He could box his socks off. But he would be at every physical disadvantage that his superior mental advantage would be worthless.
Height and reach matter! Canelo is a ****ing tiny 160-175 lb fighter.Last edited by Elastic Recoilz; 09-30-2023, 06:37 AM.
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Originally posted by Elastic Recoilz View Post
This is untrue. You forgot to mention Canelo's feet are as slow as mud and he has terrible stamina - so much so that by round 11 his "power" was akin to that of arm punches and by round 12 he was in very real danger of getting knocked down. That's what you get when load up with every single shot (most of which were telegraphed). THESE are the main reasons he lost, nothing else. There's been similar patterns against GGG where a 41 year old Golovkin took the last 4 rounds and against John Ryder who really put hands on Canelo in round 12 - to such an extent that his own fans in Mexico were booing him!
Bivol didn't respect Canelos power and due to his superior size and boxing ability made it difficult for Canelo to land flush shots to his head. So he threw arm punches the entire fight and loaded up on those in attempt to wear Bivol down. That tactical strategy didn't work.
I would say one of the main reasons that didn't work is because the more you move up in weight the less your power affects the bigger fighters. And although Canelo has nice speed for those divisions, he won't be able to dominate those bigger fighters with that speed.
Again he fought someone who had a similar if not higher boxing IQ than he has to go with superior physical attributes. Even still because Canelo is a very intelligent and talented fighter, it's possible that if he adjusts his strategy that he could win a rematch. There's no excuses. He lost a tactical boxing match. The point is unless you're bias or naive there's no way you can deny his physical limitations at the higher weights.
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Nel o is a legit 3 division champ, his 4th is similar to pac s 154 title in 8th division. Lets say nelos 175 title with kovalev was cherrypick.
So id still say Nell is 4 division champLast edited by hugh grant; 09-30-2023, 06:36 AM.
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Originally posted by Elastic Recoilz View Post
why u getting so emotional in here defending Canelo brah... Thats a feminine trait! And for the record Canelo is actually 5 foot 8 with a reach of 70.5 reach, Bivol has a 72 inch reach so the size narrative you are pushing is quite frankly false. Canelo fought Callum Smith who was 6 foot 3 FFS...
So size and reach don't matter? What's your point. Obviously Canelo was the superior fighter because of his ring IQ. That's what wins his fights. He doesn't dominate due to any size advantage. Because he gives that up at the higher weights.
Sorry you can't comprehend this and it's " emotional " clowns lol. You know unlike a bunch of you girlie ******* on here I go get active. You know workout, lift weights, train. Put the keyboard and controllers down and you wouldn't think every time someone challenges your simple mindsets that it's emotional lmao.
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