I have Pavlik by ko because PWill needs to be right in front of Pavlik to be effective because he is a volume puncher. This is where Pavlik wants him and not moving around too much like Hopkins did to upset the flow of his offense. Williams is no boxing master and will absorb many shots from Pavlik over the course of the fight, punches I don't think he can withstand for the 12 round duration.
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Originally posted by Spray_resistant View PostI have Pavlik by ko because PWill needs to be right in front of Pavlik to be effective because he is a volume puncher. This is where Pavlik wants him and not moving around too much like Hopkins did to upset the flow of his offense. Williams is no boxing master and will absorb many shots from Pavlik over the course of the fight, punches I don't think he can withstand for the 12 round duration.
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Originally posted by Spray_resistant View PostAlso Williams has not shown me he has the kind of power needed to seriously hurt Pavlik. I think it is safe to say he doesn't have the power Taylor or Hopkins has.
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Originally posted by JAB5239 View PostEven if he does, Pav took their shots. The question is, can Paul take Kelly's punches? Because Pavlik will land on him and more than a lot of people think due to Pauls looping punches. If Williams wins it would come as only a mild shock to me, but Im pretty confident Pavlik will win this. I've been wrong before though.
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Originally posted by Matt Marvelous View PostAt 160 Paul Williams beats Hopkins much more convincingly than Taylor did.
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It's just funny to me how so many people are saying that Pavlik
is too strong for Williams because of his power? Basically people
are saying that all Pavlik has is a punchers chance? That is not
enough to beat a fighter like Paul Williams. That kid is a strong
willed individual and tough as nails. I see the fight as Paul just
on top of Pavlik smothering him with punches and working his
angles and Kelly depending on his punching power but not being
able to get off properly and once he hits Williams and if/when he
weathers it, what will Kelly do? We have already witnessed
matches when fighters only had a punchers chance or depended
on their power. If Williams can nullify Kelly power then it's a wrap
for Pavlik. PLUS, are people forgetting that Williams does have
enough power to KO a fighter at any weight? Didn't Taylor shake
up Kelly? What makes people think Williams can't when he has
already KO'd a natural middle Weight? Eventhough Kolle wasn't
Kelly Pavlik, he still was a MW and Paul laid him out. If many are
saying Paul can't take Kelly's power, how do we know that
Pavlik can take his? Kelly is not known for his chin but Williams
is known for his. There is a lot people are not factoring here
by only focusing on who has the bigger punch.
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Originally posted by GlasJaw17 View PostReally? I see Hopkins circling and landing a straight right all night. And by that I mean he'll land 3, but he'll nullify P enough to take a discustingly boring decision. PWill is wide open to be hit.
for 12 rounds. Active fighters are like Kryptonite to BHOP.
Pavlik has that power stance a lil similiar to Trinidad and that's
how BHOP was able to expose him and Pavlik because they
are just power punchers looking for that one big shot and
BHOP is just too defensive for guys who only look to land
big shots. On the other hand, Paul Williams goes in and
makes it count by throwing as much punches as he can
and that would frustrate BHOP I'm sure.
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Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostIt's just funny to me how so many people are saying that Pavlik
is too strong for Williams because of his power? Basically people
are saying that all Pavlik has is a punchers chance? That is not
enough to beat a fighter like Paul Williams. That kid is a strong
willed individual and tough as nails. I see the fight as Paul just
on top of Pavlik smothering him with punches and working his
angles and Kelly depending on his punching power but not being
able to get off properly and once he hits Williams and if/when he
weathers it, what will Kelly do? We have already witnessed
matches when fighters only had a punchers chance or depended
on their power. If Williams can nullify Kelly power then it's a wrap
for Pavlik. PLUS, are people forgetting that Williams does have
enough power to KO a fighter at any weight? Didn't Taylor shake
up Kelly? What makes people think Williams can't when he has
already KO'd a natural middle Weight? Eventhough Kolle wasn't
Kelly Pavlik, he still was a MW and Paul laid him out. If many are
saying Paul can't take Kelly's power, how do we know that
Pavlik can take his? Kelly is not known for his chin but Williams
is known for his. There is a lot people are not factoring here
by only focusing on who has the bigger punch.
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Originally posted by Spray_resistant View PostI seriously doubt Williams has the power Taylor or B-hop has and neither was able to ko Pavlik while both of whom landed hard punches on him. If Pavlik is not known for having a good chin, he should be. I do agree that if Williams can take Pavlik's punches he will win a wide UD, but Paul has not shown the punch resistance against this level of a puncher. This is the way Pavlik wins most of his fights, no one is saying he is a great boxer or multidimensional just a big MW and a good puncher.
of 37 professional fights and one loss. Jermain Taylor gassed out on
Pavlik when he had him hurt by swinging all crazy and getting tired
and Bernard said he could have went for the KO but decided to play
it safe and get the decision. That is the only reason why Pavlik didn't
get KO'd and I'm not making that up. Williams will not be that merciful
and has Good stamina and a great work rate. Pavlik is not a defense
wizard either like how people are saying about Williams so both are prone
to getting KO'd but the thing is that Williams is over all the better boxer
of the two and that will be the factor.
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