Comments Thread For: Devin Haney: "Only Compare Me To Greats"

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[crimsonfalcon07]

Look I like punch stats & all punches matter or whatever, but damage matters too. This ain't amateur boxing back in the day.

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There's an elbow landed for every one of those bruises... you'll have bruises on your face if you take an elbow shot. Mentioned those already, which you conveniently ignored.

As for the Top Rank bit, could be many things. I've heard claims that Haney told them he'd re-sign with Top Rank if he won. Didn't see any validation for such claims and it obviously didn't work out that way. He ran right back to Eddie Hearn. Either way, saying someone won the fight before the fight happens and then that someone getting a highly suspect decision isn't a good look. Not making claims here, just saying it's a bad look. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that most top fights are fixed in some way (Rolly being a "champion" being a top example recently), but it's a little rare for them to be as blatant.

[GoonFace9917]

Ha ha ha

[Eff Pandas]

There's an elbow landed for every one of those bruises... you'll have bruises on your face if you take an elbow shot. Mentioned those already, which you conveniently ignored.

As for the Top Rank bit, could be many things. I've heard claims that Haney told them he'd re-sign with Top Rank if he won. Didn't see any validation for such claims and it obviously didn't work out that way. He ran right back to Eddie Hearn. Either way, saying someone won the fight before the fight happens and then that someone getting a highly suspect decision isn't a good look. Not making claims here, just saying it's a bad look. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that most top fights are fixed in some way (Rolly being a "champion" being a top example recently), but it's a little rare for them to be as blatant.

Lol yea idk about all those elbows, thats why I skipped over that sh^t. I only can retort so much of this stuff bro. Im picking my battles cuz its damn near into conspiracy theory sh^t with some of this boxing stuff these days.

We can agree that Rolly situation was complete bs tho. Glad to see the old dude got put back into the line vs Ohara. Even if he don't win he gets another nice check.

My bottom line is I & most fans, according to boxrec scores, had a close fight with lotsa swing rds & those are fights either guy can win. I wouldn't have been mad or claiming things if Loma won, not mad or claiming things for Devin winning now. I think maybe Loma just has a lot of fans that are overly invested in him, all his L's have supposedly been controversial to hear them talk about it, there might be a point with the first one in fairness to him, & cats tend to see more won rds & less close rds when its "their guy".

[crimsonfalcon07]

Lol yea idk about all those elbows, thats why I skipped over that sh^t. I only can retort so much of this stuff bro. Im picking my battles cuz its damn near into conspiracy theory sh^t with some of this boxing stuff these days.

We can agree that Rolly situation was complete bs tho. Glad to see the old dude got put back into the line vs Ohara. Even if he don't win he gets another nice check.

My bottom line is I & most fans, according to boxrec scores, had a close fight with lotsa swing rds & those are fights either guy can win. I wouldn't have been mad or claiming things if Loma won, not mad or claiming things for Devin winning now. I think maybe Loma just has a lot of fans that are overly invested in him, all his L's have supposedly been controversial to hear them talk about it, there might be a point with the first one in fairness to him, & cats tend to see more won rds & less close rds when its "their guy".

I hear you on much of that. I, for one, don't understand how anyone thinks Loma won via Lopez. He straight up gave away 7 rounds. I don't really think Lopez beat him though. Loma was pretty much firmly in control by the end of all of his fights, and if they'd been longer, he would have won. In all of his losses, he beat himself. Got started too slow vs Orlando and Teo, and then taking 12 off against Haney? I get he thought he was winning handily, but c'mon man.

[The D3vil]

The only fans of boxing who think Devin beat Loma are Loma haters and Devin fanboys.

I was glued to the set watching that fight and was impressed by Haney's resilience, that being said, he ate a lot of leather and clearly lost that fight.

I remember being so excited for Loma but at the same time nervous because Haney was the A side.

Nah, the numbers say Devin outlanded or tied Loma in 7 of 12 rounds.

There's absolutely an argument for Devin winning, Loma winning, or a draw

Disagree. The only ppl who think Devin clearly won OR Loma clearly won are fan boys of either guy or ppl who can't distinguish swing rds either guy could've won. This was a close competitive fight that could have went either way & I'd have been cool with it whichever way it went, but it did go Devin's way.

THIS.

A lot of swing rounds.

People were just impressed by Loma being the smaller guy, the older guy, and his flashy combinations that sometimes landed clean & sometimes didn't.

[BillyBoxing]

Being that Devin was the guy in his last of a 3 fight deal with a promoter vs that same promoters fighter for their whole career idk if he had the same A side advantage you'd expect one to have. But it was a close fight I'm not arguing it wasn't.

He was the A side because he had the 4 belts, was undisputed wich allowed him to dictate his own terms.

[Eff Pandas]

He was the A side because he had the 4 belts, was undisputed wich allowed him to dictate his own terms.

That don't always make you the A side tho. Loma isn't unpopular himself & he's been around a lot longer. He was the poster boy for TR for awhile & Devin was basically a boxer for hire coming to TR for 3 fights. A side ain't all belt & contractually sh^t, its popularity & promoter affiliation too.

Belts have less value than ever in A side sh^t. Look at Tank & Ryan. They had the biggest fight of the year & neither got a legit belt & both would be the A side vs anyone in their respective divisions rn.

To be clear tho I ain't saying Devin wasn't the A side, but idk that he was either. This one was a lil more 50/50 cuz of the whole setup.

[crimsonfalcon07]

That don't always make you the A side tho. Loma isn't unpopular himself & he's been around a lot longer. He was the poster boy for TR for awhile & Devin was basically a boxer for hire coming to TR for 3 fights. A side ain't all belt & contractually sh^t, its popularity & promoter affiliation too.

Belts have less value than ever in A side sh^t. Look at Tank & Ryan. They had the biggest fight of the year & neither got a legit belt & both would be the A side vs anyone in their respective divisions rn.

To be clear tho I ain't saying Devin wasn't the A side, but idk that he was either. This one was a lil more 50/50 cuz of the whole setup.

Arguably Devin still isn't the A-side. He's got a very fan-UNfriendly style, a crazy pops like Teo, pillow fists, got his first title by email, and a very controversial decision in his first real title defense, and has been busy playing the diva card.

In some ways, it's a shame because up until recently he paid his dues to get where he is, including making all the concessions to get the Kambosos fight done, twice. Shakur couldn't even accept 25 to take over, and would rather fight for Devin's scraps. But I would think a guy as desperate for recognition as Devin would have realized he needed to run it back with Loma and win decisively, as Mayweather used to do.

Prograis should be a fairly good test, although if they make it a PPV I'd be surprised if it pulls well.

[Eff Pandas]

Arguably Devin still isn't the A-side. He's got a very fan-UNfriendly style, a crazy pops like Teo, pillow fists, got his first title by email, and a very controversial decision in his first real title defense, and has been busy playing the diva card.

In some ways, it's a shame because up until recently he paid his dues to get where he is, including making all the concessions to get the Kambosos fight done, twice. Shakur couldn't even accept 25 to take over, and would rather fight for Devin's scraps. But I would think a guy as desperate for recognition as Devin would have realized he needed to run it back with Loma and win decisively, as Mayweather used to do.

Prograis should be a fairly good test, although if they make it a PPV I'd be surprised if it pulls well.

Everyone is the A side vs someone.

Devin's 100% the A side vs Regis even tho Regis gots the belt & the fight is with his promoter. Regis barely gots fans. Believe they were giving away tickets to locals before his hometown fight last time out.

I'm 100% sure Devin would have run it back with Loma if TR had made him the most favorable deal for his next fight. Devin ain't like the rest of these guys we talk about largely. Devin is a free agent & the Loma fight was his last fight of the TR deal. This is a business more than a sport at this level. And boxers should act like it as much as everyone else has forever while boxers were fighting for legacy & trinkets. And afaik Devin hasn't got a multi fight deal with Matchroom rn so its entirely possible, I'd assume, TR could make a deal after Regis to run it back with Loma.

Supposedly it will be a PPV.