Comments Thread For: Canelo Says Bivol Made Rematch Negotiations Hard: 'I Tried My Best' To Make Deal Happen

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  • QballLobo
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    #101
    Originally posted by The plunger man

    Not at all and have done risky things all my life.......Bivol offered to even come down to canelos so called best optimal weight and canelo wanted none of itso much for risking it ....he has done it time and time gain by weight restricting and demanding fighter agree to his terms .....that’s not risking it son that’s called tipping the fight in your favour....as for a blip with Bivol I remember it and so do most boxing fans and it was an utter thrashing......only fanboys refuse to accept what transpired against Bivol and your deffo one of them.....you should be on canelos Instagram page not on a forum for boxing lol
    And Canelo offered the rematch at Bivol’s optimal weight so he didn’t have to drain himself and have an excuse if he lost. That’s an advantage for Bivol.

    He got the offer and declined which he has every right to do but he’s having problems finding another fight because even after his big win no one cares about him. He brings nothing to the table business wise which is why he got a take it or leave it offer he declined. B side takes takes the offer, not makes them.

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    • Bronx2245
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      #102
      Originally posted by Elastic Recoilz

      Canelo wouldn't be the face of boxing if he came from Mongolia would he? He is a fair skinned Mexican with ginger hair and as such has a whole demographic automatically gravitating towards him. At least Mayweather and Manny achieved their status' through boxing skills alone.
      GGG had the world on fire for a minute, claiming "Mexican Style!" Canelo isn't where he is because his looks! That's Oscar and Ryan type ish!

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      • Bronx2245
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        #103
        Originally posted by Rebelrbg

        Yeah, its VERY different at light heavyweight, because the only division that he can truly jump to is cruiserweight, which isn't a popular weight class. With the size of most heavyweight fighters today, that's not a possibility. So yeah, its quite different from jumping five to eight pounds between each division to claim titles and accolades, and become a 4 division champion within 21 pounds of weight, QUITE different.
        He hasn't fought Beterbiev yet, and it's not even on the horizon, yet he's turning down offers from Canelo! That's wild!

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        • Boricua181
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          #104
          Originally posted by wrecksracer
          Offering the same deal to the guy that beat him is not the same as trying his best. Refusing to budge during negotiations is not trying hard to make a fight. If Canelo wanted the fight, it would have happened.
          Those are the cold, hard fact's! If he really wanted the rematch to exact revenge it would've happened asap!
          Canelo knew it wasn't going to be revenge, it was just going repeat, and he honestly didn't want no part of that!
          Bivol is his master in the ring, and he didn't want to suffer an even worse humiliating defeat in a second fight.
          What's so utterly disappointing about this fight not happening is that he talked up a good fight, only to whimper out with a bull**** excuse.

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          • El_Maldito_Rey
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            #105
            Originally posted by Elastic Recoilz

            Clenbuterol is just what he got convicted for you silly cretin! You'd have to be ridiculously naïve to believe Canelo hasn't used steroids or other substances at numerous points throughout his career ESPECIALLY given the fact that numerous other fighters from Reynoso's stable have also found out to be cheaters. Bob Arum and Eddie Hearn (before promoting Canelo) both commented on his physique and the high probability he was on drugs.

            Beterbiev hasn't done anything since turning pro... lol I've heard it all now - the guy holds 3 of the 175lbs titles and has 19 KO's from 19 fights, he would've put Canelo in a casket. As for Bivol, he didn't get out of 2nd gear while SCHOOLING old ginger boy

            Its customary to try to unify a division before defending the undisputed title in your own weight class to the top contenders and THEN moving up. Canelo is doing neither. He avoided undisputed at 160 to duck Jermall and fight old washed up alcoholic Kovalev. Then we see him making title defences to the likes of Yildrim and Ryder when he should be fighting Benavidez (he won't fight another Mexican though). He goes up to 175lbs (having already won a title there) and gets whooped by Bivol but claims its not his weight?? Finally now at PBC with Jermall out, instead of choosing to fight the natural 168lbs fighter in Benavidez he drags up Jermell by 2 divisions...

            So to summarise, Canelo isn't going up and down the divisions daring to be great he is simply doing so to avoid certain fighters while targeting those he perceives as low lying fruit. This was proven when Bivol offered to make concessions in weight by coming down to 168lbs - giving Canelo the advantage, but obviously he knew it was a repeat result but this time a higher probability of himself getting stopped.​
            Beterbiev and Bivol haven't done sh.it. Fought nothing but cans in the division, never going up to face bigger challenges, and are a pair of ******* too afraid to face each other. Middle of September already and we know both won't fight each other this year. But keep crying about Canelo you simp.

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            • wrecksracer
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              #106
              Originally posted by Bronx2245
              Bivol knows what the bag is like too, but he played himself! In what world does Canelo NEED the rematch? Do you think his legacy will be hurt by a loss at 175? Seriously?
              Canelo was the guy that wanted the rematch. Way to discredit your own argument.

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              • Bronx2245
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                #107
                Originally posted by wrecksracer

                Canelo was the guy that wanted the rematch. Way to discredit your own argument.
                He doesn't NEED the rematch!

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                • wrecksracer
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by Bronx2245
                  He doesn't NEED the rematch!
                  apparently, he thought he did. He at least pretended to. He certainly didn't try his best to make it, though. Just circling back to the point you seem to be missing: He didn't try his best to make the rematch.

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                  • Bronx2245
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by wrecksracer

                    apparently, he thought he did. He at least pretended to. He certainly didn't try his best to make it, though. Just circling back to the point you seem to be missing: He didn't try his best to make the rematch.
                    Hey, he made the offer, Bivol rejected, he moved on, Bivol is stuck in quicksand! Hindsight is 20/20! Good Luck to Bivol, trying to negotiate with Bob Arum for Beterbiev! He thought Canelo was bad, watch this!

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                    • wrecksracer
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by Bronx2245
                      Hey, he made the offer, Bivol rejected, he moved on, Bivol is stuck in quicksand! Hindsight is 20/20! Good Luck to Bivol, trying to negotiate with Bob Arum for Beterbiev! He thought Canelo was bad, watch this!
                      "he made the offer" isn't the same as trying his best. The entire point of this conversation is whether Canelo tried his best to make the rematch. He didn't.

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