Comments Thread For: Canelo Says Bivol Made Rematch Negotiations Hard: 'I Tried My Best' To Make Deal Happen

[wrecksracer]

So he made more money fighting Zurdo? Maybe he made more money fighting Umar Salamov? When you call something a "lowball offer," that implicates you could make more than the offer elsewhere! Did he he ever make more?

No, lowballing means Canelo offered him the same amount after Bivol already beat him. Canelo's team didn't want the fight. Canelo was trying a face saving move by offering him the same amount. He knew Bivol wasn't going to accept it.

[Bronx2245]

All these people trying to make it about money, likely because they wish they had money. Bivol is happy with his money and wants to fight for legacy. He's said that numerous times. All Canelo has to offer Bivol is money.

Bivol offered to fight at 168, or even a catchweight with a rehydration contract. If Canelo had given Bivol the fight at 168, Bivol might be the one who is undisputed at super middle, and Canelo could try to cash cow A-side with no belts. I said after the first fight that there was no way Canelo would risk that. He wouldn't even risk a catchweight without any belts on the line. Bivol is willing to fight just to prove that it wasn't about weight. Canelo isn't.

Get out of your heads about money, and think about what kind of offer should be made to the winner if Canelo actually wanted to settle the score. He didn't try his hardest. He didn't try at all. He made an offer he knew would be rejected and moved on because he knows that L isn't going to be redeemed.

Floyd never got credit for his win over Canelo because they said he "weight-drained" him at 152, when Canelo was fighting 154! Now imagine if Canelo beat Bivol @ 168? He made an offer to fight him @ 175! Should've been an easy decision to make!

[El_Maldito_Rey]

You forgot how scared Canelo is of Beterbiev. Let's talk about that.

Beterbiev was never in Canelo's sights. Beterbiev and Bivol been champs at 175 for more than 6 years. Never mention each other, never bothered to unify. P.U.S.S.I.E.S. Both of them, too scared to lose their precious undefeated records. Too scared to fight for glory and go down in history. In 5 years, neither of them will be remembered. I doubt they even make it into the Hall of Fame. All because the slit where their balls should be.

[El_Maldito_Rey]

He already fought once and destroyed the guy while Canelo.was Fighting nobodies..

Bivol is the one fighting nobodies, in fact it will be a year before he fights again. He literally is fighting nobody. Him and Beterbiev are too scared to fight each other.

[Elastic Recoilz]

Beterbiev and Bivol haven't done sh.it. Fought nothing but cans in the division, never going up to face bigger challenges, and are a pair of ******* too afraid to face each other. Middle of September already and we know both won't fight each other this year. But keep crying about Canelo you simp.

Fought no one but cans? Give your head shake son - bit of a ****** comment to make when Canelo himself was a victim of one of said guys, not to mention a prime Zurdo. As for Beterbiev did he not knock out a prime Gvozdyk or Joe Smith Jr in only 2 rounds? why did Canelo not target Beterbiev when he moved to 175lbs? Surely it would've made more sense to go after the guy with more belts no? we all know Canelo perceived Bivol as low lying fruit but a global audience saw how that panned out for him haha. Both Bivol and Beterbiev would absolutely wipe the floor with Canelo and deep in his heart he knows it!

[El_Maldito_Rey]

Fought no one but cans? Give your head shake son - bit of a ****** comment to make when Canelo himself was a victim of one of said guys, not to mention a prime Zurdo. As for Beterbiev did he not knock out a prime Gvozdyk or Joe Smith Jr in only 2 rounds? why did Canelo not target Beterbiev when he moved to 175lbs? Surely it would've made more sense to go after the guy with more belts no? we all know Canelo perceived Bivol as low lying fruit but a global audience saw how that panned out for him haha. Both Bivol and Beterbiev would absolutely wipe the floor with Canelo and deep in his heart he knows it!

Ok, I agree Beterbiev and Bivol both beat Canelo, and? What's your point? He's smaller than them.

Bivol and Beterbiev on the other hand are the same size, both have belts in the division. What's the problem? Why can't they fight each other? Either they're scared of each other, or they're puppets to their promotors. Which one is it? You crying about Canelo not fighting in another division while not saying anything about the two belt holding chumps in the division not fighting each other makes you look like an ass licking fanboy. But from what I've gathered, you are an ass licking fanboy wanting to see your heroes pick on smaller fighters and are content with them not challenging themselves.

"Prime" Zurdo? F.ucking seriously? You can excuse Bivol not fighting Beterbeiv because he fought slow as molasses Zurdo? Damn, you really are a ****** moron.

[Elastic Recoilz]

Floyd never got credit for his win over Canelo because they said he "weight-drained" him at 152, when Canelo was fighting 154! Now imagine if Canelo beat Bivol @ 168? He made an offer to fight him @ 175! Should've been an easy decision to make!

Its a damage limitation move from Canelo. In his eyes its better to lose to Bivol at 175lbs twice than to lose to him again but now at 168lbs losing all of his titles in the process, it would be difficult to come back from. Truth is Bivol fighting at either weight beats Canelo because he is a fundamentally better boxer.

[Elastic Recoilz]

Ok, I agree Beterbiev and Bivol both beat Canelo, and? What's your point? He's smaller than them.

Bivol and Beterbiev on the other hand are the same size, both have belts in the division. What's the problem? Why can't they fight each other? Either they're scared of each other, or they're puppets to their promotors. Which one is it? You crying about Canelo not fighting in another division while not saying anything about the two belt holding chumps in the division not fighting each other makes you look like an ass licking fanboy. But from what I've gathered, you are an ass licking fanboy wanting to see your heroes pick on smaller fighters and are content with them not challenging themselves.

"Prime" Zurdo? F.ucking seriously? You can excuse Bivol not fighting Beterbeiv because he fought slow as molasses Zurdo? Damn, you really are a ****** moron.

You call me an ass licking fanboy when it is you going to extreme lengths protecting Canelo from slander loool... Although it's not slander is it? Canelo did fail a drugs test, he did state he didn't want to fight Benavidez because he is Mexican, he did low ball Bivol to avoid getting whooped again, he did attempt to drag Badou Jack down to 180lbs at 40 years old, he did force GGG up to 168lbs at 40 years old, he did enforce a rehydration clause on Danny Jacobs in a middleweight unification fight and has been a weight bully to at least 8 or 9 fighters now... You literally can't defend that - and if you do YOU are an A+ "ass licking fanboy"

Throwing mud at Bivol and Beterbiev doesn't deflect from the fact that Canelo is fighter with limited abilities and who is also a colossal diva. At least Manny and Floyd never needed judges to bail them out. If anything Manny was probably robbed in fights against Bradley and Horn whilst Mayeather rematched Maidana and Castillo after close fights. Canelo wants no parts of a rematch with Bivol. The judges also bailed him out against GGG twice and against Lara. He is so protected its unreal - and he is protected because he is a fighter with slow ass feet and appalling stamina (when not on substances)...

Also GTFO with that Canelo is smaller than Bivol and Beterbiev BS. I can see Reynoso and Canelo successfully pulled the wool over your eyes. If you'd just wipe Canelo's semen out of your eyes and forehead for one second you'll realise that if Canelo was big enough to beat Kovalev at 175lbs previously so was he too small this time against Bivol? Honestly you Canelo cawk slurpers make it up as you go along. Canelo always has been a big re-hydrater who puts on typically between 20-25lbs after weigh in. If he can make the 175lbs limit then all is fair game.

[garfios]

You call me an ass licking fanboy when it is you going to extreme lengths protecting Canelo from slander loool... Although it's not slander is it? Canelo did fail a drugs test, he did state he didn't want to fight Benavidez because he is Mexican, he did low ball Bivol to avoid getting whooped again, he did attempt to drag Badou Jack down to 180lbs at 40 years old, he did force GGG up to 168lbs at 40 years old, he did enforce a rehydration clause on Danny Jacobs in a middleweight unification fight and has been a weight bully to at least 8 or 9 fighters now... You literally can't defend that - and if you do YOU are an A+ "ass licking fanboy"

Throwing mud at Bivol and Beterbiev doesn't deflect from the fact that Canelo is fighter with limited abilities and who is also a colossal diva. At least Manny and Floyd never needed judges to bail them out. If anything Manny was probably robbed in fights against Bradley and Horn whilst Mayeather rematched Maidana and Castillo after close fights. Canelo wants no parts of a rematch with Bivol. The judges also bailed him out against GGG twice and against Lara. He is so protected its unreal - and he is protected because he is a fighter with slow ass feet and appalling stamina (when not on substances)...

Also GTFO with that Canelo is smaller than Bivol and Beterbiev BS. I can see Reynoso and Canelo successfully pulled the wool over your eyes. If you'd just wipe Canelo's semen out of your eyes and forehead for one second you'll realise that if Canelo was big enough to beat Kovalev at 175lbs previously so was he too small this time against Bivol? Honestly you Canelo cawk slurpers make it up as you go along. Canelo always has been a big re-hydrater who puts on typically between 20-25lbs after weigh in. If he can make the 175lbs limit then all is fair game.

When he was fighting at 155, he usually come in at 171-177 the night of the fight, and he was in his twenties.

[Bronx2245]

Its a damage limitation move from Canelo. In his eyes its better to lose to Bivol at 175lbs twice than to lose to him again but now at 168lbs losing all of his titles in the process, it would be difficult to come back from. Truth is Bivol fighting at either weight beats Canelo because he is a fundamentally better boxer.

If Bivol is that good at 168, and 168 has WAY more talent than 175, why is Bivol @ 175?