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  • #51
    Originally posted by wrecksracer View Post

    I didn't say anything like that. Another victory over Canelo wouldn't have made him HOF or ATG, either. If Canelo really wanted the fight, why didn't he throw Bivol any extra incentive? What's a few million to Canelo? Why not at 168? Lowballing Bivol was a face saving move. Now Canelo is acting like he tried his best lol.
    If Bivol really wanted the fight, why didn't he accept the terms? Obviously he figured he could do better? Wait until these PPV numbers come in from September 30th! Charlo knows what time it is! $$$

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    • #52
      Originally posted by A.B Counterhooks View Post
      Some here need to start using their logic and common sense, who the hell is going to pay Bivol what he made against the ginger? Why not taking same terms for an easy night work? Itd clear that the russian team wanted more money along with canelos belts its obvious cinnabon would give them the middle finger as their fight was at 175 not 168 and the mexican has other options unlike the russian. Canelo moved on and now has a lucrative fight deal....and Bivol? No beterbiev fight and not even a scheduled opponent . Who made the smartest decision after all?

      You guys think canelo is ****** enough to concede further leverage to a guy that simply doesnt generate nowhere near as much as him even tho he lost a decision to. C'mon now people this is no rocket science. Lol...but hey, haters gonna hate. Thats understandable.
      Bro. You conveniently leave out the fact that Canelo was adamant about avenging his arse whipping for months after the fight. He said it over and over, I want Bivol again. Bivol obviously didnt ask for 50/50. It isn't breaking Canelo to give Bivol a bit more, as he said "wants to avenge the loss".

      It isn't hating to point out the obvious fact that Canelo got whipped, all the bluster about wanting a rematch was garbage and now he is saving face. I get that you are a fan of Canelo, but pointing out the obvious is not "hating". To defend what Canelo is doing at this point with Bivol after talking all that noise, ducking Benavidez, what he tried with Badou Jack, pulling up an inactive guy two weight classes.....at some point you've got to realize you are fan boying.
      Last edited by Theshotyoudontsee; 09-12-2023, 01:38 PM.

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      • #53
        people were on andy ruiz case for asking for too much money against Wilder.... Bivol tried to do the same crap.... it's his fault

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Ry92 View Post
          The guy that beat you 9 rounds to 3 max you offered 30% for a rematch, ain't budge during negotiations. Could have atleast offered the dude 45% if you were serious Canelo didn't even win a round
          9 to 3? Oh hell no .try 12-0. That was a shutout..

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Mooshashi View Post
            Canelo is a business man seeking greatness. Next after Charlo (!) he will be making Crawford put on 19 pounds for a SMW title shot. And because he's the A side, Crawford should take
            20% and like it. Now that's greatness and legacy for sure.
            Oh please. Shut the hell up dude..you're ridiculous.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by QballLobo View Post
              Boxing is a business. Even after the win Bivol is still not a draw and not worth more than what he got in the first fight.
              Canelo wants the rematch but doesn’t need it. The loss didn’t hurt him at all. He was a free agent and PBC and Hearn offered a $100 million plus for his services.
              Meanwhile Bivol took short money for his last fight and is struggling to find his next opponent.
              Bivol had no leverage because he had no other options. He got the offer and didn’t except it which is his right but now he is where he is.
              The loss didn't hurt him at all huh..so you're another boxing manager. Just infinite ******ity here .

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              • #57
                Never thought I’d see the day when bozos are talking about money being the motive, he’s dumb for taking less money to fight others and the like. It’s actually embarrassing to see this defense used, the man offered to come down a whole division as well in order to make the fight but it’s about money? How badly do you want to want a rematch, im willing to come down to give you some help in looking better and they still can’t negotiate. Canelo did not want that fight, PERIOD. Money is the excuse and folks are really trying to push the narrative. Dude said I’ll come take your straps a lower division of too and Canelo said “NO THANKS!!” Do y’all even comprehend how disrespectful that is for Bivol to say I’ll come down to your level and whoop your asssssss and you still find a way not to fight him. Let’s stick to the real narrative which is what I just mentioned. Dude gave him numerous ways to try and get his revenge and he said “nah im good.” There ain’t no way charlo vs Canelo outsells a bivol rematch, if y’all wanna be real, why? Most of us don’t feel charlo has a shot, but what most of us do feel is Canelo could get stopped by bivol. The Canelo fans would buy into the revenge angle as well since y’all fall for any okie doke he hits y’all with.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
                  If Bivol really wanted the fight, why didn't he accept the terms? Obviously he figured he could do better? Wait until these PPV numbers come in from September 30th! Charlo knows what time it is! $$$
                  This thread is about whether Canelo tried his best to make the fight. He didn't. Bivol made clear that his preference was unification against Beterbiev. That fight wouldn't net him anywhere near Canelo cash. However, it isn't always about the money, especially if you're already a millionaire....and let's not forget that it is a sport. Canelo needed a rematch, Bivol didn't. Of course Charlo knows what time it is. He hasn't fought Canelo yet. Bivol has.
                  Rebelrbg Rebelrbg turnedup turnedup like this.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Theshotyoudontsee View Post

                    Bro. You conveniently leave out the fact that Canelo was adamant about avenging his arse whipping for months after the fight. He said it over and over, I want Bivol again. Bivol obviously didnt ask for 50/50. It isn't breaking Canelo to give Bivol a bit more, as he said "wants to avenge the loss".

                    It isn't hating to point out the obvious fact that Canelo got whipped, all the bluster about wanting a rematch was garbage and now he is saving face. I get that you are a fan of Canelo, but pointing out the obvious is not "hating". To defend what Canelo is doing at this point with Bivol after talking all that noise, ducking Benavidez, what he tried with Badou Jack, pulling up an inactive guy two weight classes.....at some point you've got to realize you are fan boying.
                    Bro its not fanboy-ism at all, its true what u say about canelo being adamant about the rematch but he cant decide for Bivol or his team, If you already beat a guy 8-4 with relative ease and on top getting a career record purse for it why wouldn't you doit again? Knowing that its going to be almost impossible getting that type of high profile money/exposure unless you fight beterbiev for all the marbles which btw it also looking unlikely to happen in near future given the reason that we all know by now. Its clear that Bivol and his team saw the opportunity in canelo to become undisputed at lower division and getting even more money in the attempt but it backfired and now the ginger went to PBC, meanwhile the russian left with 'Nada'.

                    And well as far as ducking Benavidez I dont think Canelo would have sign a 3-fight deal with PBC and not fight him now that Both on the same stable. But if the ginger ends that deal and doesnt fight him trust me I would be the first to criticize his freckled ass. Lol.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by A.B Counterhooks View Post

                      Bro its not fanboy-ism at all, its true what u say about canelo being adamant about the rematch but he cant decide for Bivol or his team, If you already beat a guy 8-4 with relative ease and on top getting a career record purse for it why wouldn't you doit again? Knowing that its going to be almost impossible getting that type of high profile money/exposure unless you fight beterbiev for all the marbles which btw it also looking unlikely to happen in near future given the reason that we all know by now. Its clear that Bivol and his team saw the opportunity in canelo to become undisputed at lower division and getting even more money in the attempt but it backfired and now the ginger went to PBC, meanwhile the russian left with 'Nada'.

                      And well as far as ducking Benavidez I dont think Canelo would have sign a 3-fight deal with PBC and not fight him now that Both on the same stable. But if the ginger ends that deal and doesnt fight him trust me I would be the first to criticize his freckled ass. Lol.
                      dude even offered to come down and whip your boys behind a second time. You can paint it how ever you want, man said I’ll even come down to you. Keep talking about bivols money and what he’s earning to deflect from the fact your man Canelo never really wanted the smoke. He didn’t want it at 175 and he even passed on 168 since some of the narrative for him losing was the weight division. He got spanked, even if bivol had offered to take 8% he wouldn’t have made that fight. Pretending like you are trying to make a fight is one thing, making it another.

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