Neither one of these guys can beat Fury, Usyk, or Wilder. They're both way too slow and not nearly good enough on defense.
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either could KO Usyk with a body shot. Usyk was KO5 by a complete bum.
Either could KO Wilder. Wilder is old and small, damaged by Fury. We are not even sure how good he is anymoreComment
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DuBois sucks but Joyce and Zhang are way, way slower. And that was a low blow.
Wilder may or may not be damaged goods but one thing I am completely certain of is that no fighter can beat Wilder without moving their heads. If you leave your head on the center line, he's putting you to sleep. Period. And both Zhang and Joyce keep their heads completely stationary.Comment
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I agree with that. And Joyce was overhyped before Zhang exposed him, but Zhang himself scored a draw against Jerry Forest even after having him three times in a knockdown. That itself raises questions about Hrgovic who barely survived Zhang (and I think this fight was a draw). but at least this is some movement in the top heavyweight division.Comment
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That man never moved his head in his career, it is impossible for him to learn to do it now. Adding that he is slow and not a very intelligent fighter, maybe this bout will be very similar to the first. Eventually no doctor's stoppage, but UD for Zhang.Comment
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DuBois sucks but Joyce and Zhang are way, way slower. And that was a low blow.
Wilder may or may not be damaged goods but one thing I am completely certain of is that no fighter can beat Wilder without moving their heads. If you leave your head on the center line, he's putting you to sleep. Period. And both Zhang and Joyce keep their heads completely stationary.
stop coping
Dubois got his head beat in by Joyce. Joyce did it without a corrupt ref.
speed isn't as important as power and timing. this is why lightweights don't win heavyweight championships. Usyk is has to be perfect for 12 rounds, the big guys just have to be perfect for 1 second.
how do we even know Wilder's power is real? he couldn't KO Fury once in 3 rights. Fury isn't even iron chinned.Last edited by HeadShots; 09-04-2023, 03:57 PM.Comment
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I watched Zhang vs Joyce just now. Joyce was a Sucker for that lead left. I'm talking about again and again. Same way as Wald was a sucker for Sander's lead left. I don't see how Joyce can turn it around. Other than taking the fight to Zhang. To not let him get set. I doubt if Joyce can pull that off.Comment
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- - Watch ye Joyce win the rematch…I watched Zhang vs Joyce just now. Joyce was a Sucker for that lead left. I'm talking about again and again. Same way as Wald was a sucker for Sander's lead left. I don't see how Joyce can turn it around. Other than taking the fight to Zhang. To not let him get set. I doubt if Joyce can pull that off.Comment
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What difference would that make?
Fury is NOT the champion because the WBC made him one.
He's champion because he thrashed Klitschko (Who collected wins over everybody but his brother), and nobody's beaten him since. PERIOD. He's got the title worn by Sullivan, Jeffries, Johnson, Dempsey, Tunney, Louis, Marciano...none of whom ever heard of a WBC.
Either Fury dies, retires for 3 years, becomes permanently disabled or gets beat. That's the story from HISTORY's view.
History doesn't care about those dozens of fake titles holders, be it Usyk, Joshua, Wilder or Mahmoud "Manuel" Charr.
And neither should anybody else.
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