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  • deathofaclown
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    #31
    Originally posted by 786
    People have been hoping for Joyce to move his head since he turned pro and it’s not happened yet so I doubt it’ll be any different in the rematch.

    If his eye doesn’t close this time, he might be able to take over in the second half as Zhang gasses.
    Pretty much this


    Also it's worth nothing Joyce come in quite a bit lighter than usual last fight, im not sure what his thinking was. I expect to see him around his usual weights this time.

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    • mrbig1
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      #32
      Originally posted by Zelda

      The biggest question is if Joyce hasn't learned head movement by this age, it would be hard to suddenly do that in one training camp. The only positive for Joyce is that Zhang ain't that great or young or durable either, so if Joyce can reduce the number of times he gets hit and start hitting of his own, he has a good chance to win. Adjusting his weight may also help him in being able to take the punches until he can KO Zhang.
      I hope you're right. I want Joyce to win. The HW division is dead right now. Because the big name in the division is a clown. A Joyce win could set up a Joyce vs AJ fight in London.

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      • STREET CLEANER
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        #33
        Joyce will not learn to move his head at this stage of his career. If anything they should concentrate in stepping around and position his hands better to defend himself.

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        • Willow The Wisp
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          #34
          Originally posted by mrbig1

          I know where you're coming from. But Ali has already whipped out the HW division. Fury has people standing line to fight him. Like Ruiz Usyk, Zhang. If he doesn't want to defend his title give to somebody who will. I'm a Fury fan. I'm just tired of his ****.
          I'm always giving credit to everyone in or near the top 10 at Heavyweight. To me, that's an exceptionally esteemed place to have ascended to in sports; something, I feel is miles above overpaid school boys running around together chasing a ball around a field like little girls.

          Joe Joyce not moving his head didn't stop him from plowing through the division until slamming in to one-inch-punch 张志磊.
          His offensive arsenal, resilience and power take him past all but a handful of professionals. Sadly for him 张志磊 isn't one of them. A foolish rematch for him, I fear.

          Zhang, a 3 time world championships medalist in the Amateur college, brings a ton of subtitles that Joyce and the fans alike just didn't receive the memo on.

          Anyway, the top 10 is a moving target -

          Always, the world's championship is a wealth making goal that no big, powerful tough man on earth will shy away from if his courage is real. So lots of those type men give it a go.

          Fury was up to date not very long ago, with 2 wins over Wilder and one each over erstwhile UK competitors Whyte and Chisora, who BOTH remain today top 10 heavyweights, according to BoxRec.com.

          But you've got to keep defending if you're champion!

          The reluctant Ruiz has fallen off, leaving the thrice stumbled Joshua, the already met Wilder, the body-fragile Usyk and the Just beaten Joyce & Dubois to round out their top 10 along with Zhang and Hrgovic and Fury himself.

          Nobody here really screams out as somebody who Tyson Fury can't handle.

          Usyk suddenly looks like a 7 round opponent for the Gypsy King, no more of a true risk than Francis Ngannou!

          As to the contextual Ali comparative; he cleaned house between 64' and 67' during his first reign, but the entrance of the next generation came on quickly thereafter, and the roster changed entirely during his forced hiatus.

          You must stay current!
          However.....

          In the 2020s
          Fury defended the title 4 times
          And none of the contenders did any better:

          Zhang fought 6 times
          Joyce fought 6 times
          Hrgovic fought 6 times
          Chisora fought 6 times
          Joshua fought 5 times, winning just 3
          Usyk fought 4 times
          Whyte fought 4 times
          Wilder fought 3 times

          .....And That ain't busy enough.

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            #35
            True my good friend. I want big fights now. I want a champ who will take on all comers. I know this a different era. I'm old.

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            • Willow The Wisp
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              #36
              Originally posted by hugh grant

              I'm sure if usy k beats fury, usy k will give Zhang a fight. Usyk wants to be GOAT.
              He might beat Hugie Fury. Unless Fury-Light goes for the body.

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              • mrbig1
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                #37
                If Zhang wins again. That has to make him the #1 contender for Usyk title right?

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                • mlac
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                  #38
                  Joyces only hope is if Big **** blows his load & gasses out via his homer simpson technique of taking shots to the face.

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                  • mrbig1
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                    #39
                    I can't believe no one cares about this fight. The winner of this fight is in the driver's seat. Fat paydays await.

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                    • baroidi
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by mrbig1
                      If Zhang wins again. That has to make him the #1 contender for Usyk title right?
                      Hrgovic gets a shot at Uysk next (his controversial win over Zhang), winner of Zhang/Joyce gets their shot after Hrgovic. With all these ABC belts, it's all politics (and under the table $ from promoters) with their rankings. How the hell did Dubois get the first crack at Usyk when his most notable fight was his loss to Joyce lol

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