Comments Thread For: Crawford Trainer 'Bomac': If Spence Was Weight Drained, That's Just Bad Coaching on Derrick James' Part

[Roadblock]

He looked fine to me. The saying is old fighters can get old over-night. Never heard of drained overnight, you're making that up. He said himself he was in great shape and he was looking for excuses after the fight with the my timing is off malarky.


100% bullshit he wasn't in great shape. Stop it! All these "seasonal" guys now save weight loss for the last leg of camp, a run the week before, if true, is nothing. I know all about draning, had to do it myself. Of course, on an amateur level is miles different that a pro level and vs the best in the sport =---> totally different. But a single run the week of isn't crippling. A lot of these guys are draining in suits and sauna up until the day or weigh-ins.

Sorry I cant stop being open-minded its very possible something was wrong with Spence, to totally reject that doesn't fit with what I seen, time will reveal all.

[satiev1]

We heard for how long that Spence wasn't weight drained, he had a nutritionist, it's the best he looked his whole career......

Both spence and his nutrionist said this was spence's best weight cut ever. Straight from the horse's mouth.

[War Room]

Sorry I cant stop being open-minded its very possible something was wrong with Spence, to totally reject that doesn't fit with what I seen, time will reveal all.

Based on what though? He said he had a great camp, weight was great, he looked good, wasn't dry, nobody from his side saying anything. The whole weight thing was generated by superfans the night he lost. He didn't look drained on the scales. He fought hard, looked like he always did. The only thing you've brought up is he had a run the week of the fight which very well could have been two weeks prior. Crawford just doesn't suck. And let's not forget, a well respected judge had Porter winning against Spence.

all these guys suddenly, coincidentally develop problems with making weight the same night they fight their best opponent of career and lose

Superfans bug out when it doesn't go their way.

[Roadblock]

Based on what though? He said he had a great camp, weight was great, he looked good, wasn't dry, nobody from his side saying anything. The whole weight thing was generated by superfans the night he lost. He didn't look drained on the scales. He fought hard, looked like he always did. The only thing you've brought up is he had a run the week of the fight which very well could have been two weeks prior. Crawford just doesn't suck. And let's not forget, a well respected judge had Porter winning against Spence.



Superfans bug out when it doesn't go their way.

He looked physically very weak, he seemed to really push punches and his residence was gone, I don't care what they say before a fight they are compelled to hype it they not going to say I'm have weight issues the promotor would go nuts, like Ive said all alone I don't know one way or the other but he looked off to me.

[_Rexy_]

Based on what though? He said he had a great camp, weight was great, he looked good, wasn't dry, nobody from his side saying anything. The whole weight thing was generated by superfans the night he lost. He didn't look drained on the scales. He fought hard, looked like he always did. The only thing you've brought up is he had a run the week of the fight which very well could have been two weeks prior. Crawford just doesn't suck. And let's not forget, a well respected judge had Porter winning against Spence.



Superfans bug out when it doesn't go their way.

****, I either had Porter winning, or would have if not for the KD…

[_Rexy_]

He looked physically very weak, he seemed to really push punches and his residence was gone, I don't care what they say before a fight they are compelled to hype it they not going to say I'm have weight issues the promotor would go nuts, like Ive said all alone I don't know one way or the other but he looked off to me.

He looked “off” because he was getting his shii pushed in from the second round on.

[War Room]

He looked physically very weak, he seemed to really push punches and his residence was gone, I don't care what they say before a fight they are compelled to hype it they not going to say I'm have weight issues the promotor would go nuts, like Ive said all alone I don't know one way or the other but he looked off to me.

He always pushes his punches lol, especially his jab. Go back and watch the Brook fight for an example. He punches up too much and hits a lot with the bottom of his glove. I think you just really like Spence, he looked great physically. Actually looked worse for Garcia! Proof =--->

[Outwest Exp 355]

Spence lives a hard life lol? You're acting like he's Ricky Fatton is something. Spence had a career of easy touches, wth lol!

P4P lost it's meaning years ago. The metric is malleable by whatever outlet spits one out now. Let's stick to what it really means, we're smart enough to know who's really P4P.

The phrase pound for pound was created by sportswriters for Sugar Ray Robinson during his career as a way to compare boxers irrespective of weight. The common reference was if Ray was a HW.

Spence can't even fight at his natural weight, never mind in bigger classes. Spence would get decimated at 160 which he should have been 5+ years ago. Spence was never a legitimate P4P fighter. You got to move up in classes to show you can take the heat, he hasn't done that.

Guys like Floyd, Manny, RJJ, Robinson, and yes Crawford (he moved up to classes from his debut) can be considered P4P. You can't just hang at one weight your entire life and reasonably be considered P4P. Spence dropped in weight when he turned pro. Spence is a weight bully that got found out, end of story.

We’ll see how good that win holds up over time.

[Roadblock]

He looked “off” because he was getting his shii pushed in from the second round on.

Maybe it will be interesting if he seems better at a higher weight.

[Roadblock]

He always pushes his punches lol, especially his jab. Go back and watch the Brook fight for an example. He punches up too much and hits a lot with the bottom of his glove. I think you just really like Spence, he looked great physically. Actually looked worse for Garcia! Proof =--->

I don't care what he looked like before other fights he looked physically weak in this one, as I said time will tell, I like both guys I have no bias I picked TC to win and he will again, still think that Errol had something wrong with him in the first fight.