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  • techliam
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    #11
    Originally posted by Leicesterage

    Question is, you need to define "dominating".

    Some judges will look at ineffective aggression as dominating (Chino).
    Some judges will look at absolutely dull boxing masterclasses as dominating ("Boring Ass" Frank Sanchez)

    You're not going to solve the problem without clear definitions of what you mean.
    Dominating - as in the round may be scored 10-8 to the dominating fighter without them scoring a knockdown

    These guys are not actually changing any rules, just clarifying what they’ve always been

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      #12
      Originally posted by 4truth
      If you lose the round in every other way but score a knockdown, why shouldn't it be just 10-9?

      Not referring to the Davis/Garcia fight, whatever happened there I don't care, but in general.
      If you hit the canvas as a result of a legal blow, but your opponent didn’t. You lost the round. Another point deducted per knockdown

      The only exception being that you dominated the rest of the round, enough to warrant a 10-8 for yourself. This rule is very rarely applied nowadays though. It was actually one of the replacement rules for the standing 8 count, which hasn’t been used by the ABC since the late 90s

      Its not a difficult or controversial rule

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        #13
        Originally posted by techliam

        Dominating - as in the round may be scored 10-8 to the dominating fighter without them scoring a knockdown

        These guys are not actually changing any rules, just clarifying what they’ve always been
        "Dominating" is too ambiguous - and I gave two examples.

        As long as you have different interpretations of what "dominating" means, you're still going to have one-off judges with 10-9 or 10-10 cards.

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          #14
          It is about time they are having this discussion. It should be a discussion. How do you score a round 10-9 when a guy is dominating the round, but putting the guy down…and the guy taking the punishment outs you down. It 10-8 on every knockdown regardless. That will end the score card controversy. 10-10 rounds should be rare and 10-9 rounds shouldn’t be scored when there is a knockdown in that round.

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            #15
            Originally posted by 4truth
            If you lose the round in every other way but score a knockdown, why shouldn't it be just 10-9?

            Not referring to the Davis/Garcia fight, whatever happened there I don't care, but in general.
            Because you didn’t put the guy down and he put you down. That’s why!

            Why isn’t that domination round scored 10-8 if you dominate a guy the whole round and didn’t go down? There are clear reasons for this.

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            • Raggamuffin
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              #16
              Originally posted by Nightfall
              Cheating ass judges. That said. If you don't want to get behind on the score cards then don't get knocked down
              So you expect every fighter to stay on their feet!!??? Wtf lmao…

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                #17
                Originally posted by SilverMiles
                I disagree with this decision. While Moretti's 10 - 10 was an outrageous score in the 2nd round, based on the round, the judges were right to score the round 10 - 9 for Davis. The same goes for the Kambosos vs. Lopez 1st round. Simple-minded consideration by a simple-minded commission during a simple-minded era.
                They weren’t right scoring it 10-9 for Davis. That was a clear 10-8 round for Davis.

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                • 4truth
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                  #18
                  You read that backwards.

                  I said if you lose the round in every way and then YOU score the knockdown. You should only get a 10-9 round.

                  obviously, if you lose the round and get knocked down, a 10-8 is appropriate.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by 4truth
                    You read that backwards.

                    I said if you lose the round in every way and then YOU score the knockdown. You should only get a 10-9 round.

                    obviously, if you lose the round and get knocked down, a 10-8 is appropriate.
                    And I’m saying that the score should still be 10-8…

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Raggamuffin
                      And I’m saying that the score should still be 10-8…
                      So whether you dominate the round or are dominated in the round, it's irrelevant. A flash knockdown erases all that and awards 2 points, 3 if the guy scoring it was losing the round. If you say so

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