Wilder's ko ratio against top 10 opponents compared to others

[Spray_resistant]

Even his best win which he had twice in Ortiz, who has he beaten that was very good when he beat them? I took a close look at what both of their best wins did after Wilder and Ortiz beat them and its either nothing of note or more losses.

[Boxing 112]

No one ever brings up the ratings the belt organisation offers outside when a less-than-desirable opponent is chosen as their mandatory. Whenever the top 10 is mentioned, it's either in reference to Ring Magazine or TBRB.

I've seen plenty of people bring up boxrec. That picture that goes around with wilders opponent rankings looks like its boxrec. It def aint ring or wbc wba ibf wbo

[Amir Imam]

No one ever brings up the ratings the belt organisation offers outside when a less-than-desirable opponent is chosen as their mandatory. Whenever the top 10 is mentioned, it's either in reference to Ring Magazine or TBRB.

Is the ring not considered a belt organization? Even if they’re not credible to some I believe Boxrec is the most referenced organization I rarely hear anyone fans mention The Ring. BoxRec may be the most popular too if we’re being honest.

[SilverMiles]

Is the ring not considered a belt organization? Even if they’re not credible to some I believe Boxrec is the most referenced organization I rarely hear anyone fans mention The Ring. BoxRec may be the most popular too if we’re being honest.

I've seen BoxRec mostly used when talking about guys outside of the top ten and for that, it's a useful tool because it's the only tool we have in regard to guys ranked on the fringers and below. However, there are a lot of flaws in the way points are given out. This leads to BoxRec typically having #1 fighters who aren't considered #1 by most other sources for example Davis is considered #1 at Lightweight (this includes Haney within the rankings), Usyk is considered #1 at Heavyweight, and Progrias is considered #1 at Jr. Welterweight (this may be the least controversial overall.) While both Ring and TBRB have Haney, Fury, and Lopez as the top fighters of these divisions.

However I may be a bit out of the loop if you're including conversations that take place on Youtube and Twitter, but that's only because I know most people on those sites don't really follow the sport.

[Eff Pandas]

I've seen BoxRec mostly used when talking about guys outside of the top ten and for that, it's a useful tool because it's the only tool we have in regard to guys ranked on the fringers and below. However, there are a lot of flaws in the way points are given out. This leads to BoxRec typically having #1 fighters who aren't considered #1 by most other sources for example Davis is considered #1 at Lightweight (this includes Haney within the rankings), Usyk is considered #1 at Heavyweight, and Progrias is considered #1 at Jr. Welterweight (this may be the least controversial overall.) While both Ring and TBRB have Haney, Fury, and Lopez as the top fighters of these divisions.

However I may be a bit out of the loop if you're including conversations that take place on Youtube and Twitter, but that's only because I know most people on those sites don't really follow the sport.

Agree. I prefer TBRB over Ring personally but the difference is probably minimal for a record stat like this. But Boxrec aren't serious rankings while being beneficial for getting an idea of someones strength of schedule in an abstract way with lesser guys more than the bigger names.

[The D3vil]

Such a dishonest thread.

Wilder's knocked everybody out he's fought but Fury & Stiverne.in the 1st fight.

Nobody's knocked Fury out, hence him being undefeated.

Wilder knocked Stiverne out in the 1st or 2nd round in their 2nd fight.

So really, this thread is saying Wilder's not a big puncher because he hasn't knocked Fury out, who nobody's knocked out.

Joshua, for instance didn't knock out Ruiz, Usyk, Franklin, or Parker,

Now, let's look at their common opponents.

Wilder knocked out Helenius in 3 punches
It took Joshua 8 rounds to knock him out

Wilder knocked Molina down 4x & stopped him in the 9th
Joshua knocked Molina out in the 3rd

Wilder knocked Breazeale out in 1 round
Joshua stopped him in 7

Wilder stopped Gavern in 4 rounds
Joshua stopped Gavern in 3

So, of their 4 common opponents, Wilder knocked 2 of them out earlier, Joshua knocked two of them out earlier

So, essentially, this thread is about Fury

Newsflash, Joshua aint knocking Fury out either, which is why they aint fought. Eddie Hearn wouldn't allow that shxt when it should've happened & now Tyson Fury is making them pay for it by stringing Joshua along.

[SplitSecond]

Wilder has made a career of fat bums and one old man. That’s his career. He’s never fought a properly conditioned, top 10 opponent. Stiverne in fight 1 was conditioned and Wilder couldn’t even get an official KD, Stiverne, who’d been stopped prior, literally walked through Wilder’s power all night. The other 2 decently conditioned guys were Fury in fight II, which Wilder couldn’t KD neither, and that bum Gerald Washington, and he was stopped on his feet.

People don’t even see that most of the guy’s Wilder has KO’d, have been KO’d in similar fashion by others.

[TMLT87]

The fact hes only fought three top 10 level opponents in 46 fights is ridiculous.

I do think his power is very real though, in that straight right anyway. But against a higher level of opposition hes obviously not going to be landing as successfully, and they can potentially get to him before he hurts them.

[Roadblock]

Not all top tens represent the same quality, the whole idea is skewed, what is the thread actually trying to say?

[JakeTheBoxer]

Wilder is a bum with the power. But this power is still real.